by Allan Fish
At this time of year, with the “bah humbugs” behind us, time to reflect…and I find Scrooge is alive and well…
It’s strange to be putting fingers to keyboard again. There’s an old joke about making plans being the surest way to make the almighty laugh. My plans had been to do a lot of rewatching and reviewing through December to meet a deadline. I’d been looking forward to the period since the summer, but like Alex après Ludovico Technique, “as quick as a shot came the sickness, like a detective that had been watching around the corner and now followed to make his arrest.” The flu stuck around for two weeks, like a party guest at a mansion so inebriated that he woke up in the west wing a fortnight after the event not knowing where the hell he was. The resultant coughing fits were enough to put Derek and Clive to shame and resulted in the pay-dirt of laryngitis and the sort of inability to sleep worthy of Edward Norton’s protagonist in Fight Club. After quercetin, perotin, pholcodine, paracetamol, covonia, ibuprofen, amoxycillin and the ghastly Kilkof (I’m sure it does, it nearly killed me) I thought I’d put digits to plastic while I could.
In my absence I’ve missed the usual wrangling over 10 Best Lists and frantic last minute watching of films that, nine times out of ten, probably weren’t good enough, and even then, the list changes by the hour as something else comes to mind that you forgot. I deplore year end lists simply because I don’t follow the rules of US critics of having to be shown in their country at that time. I remember the laughable state of affairs of some critics who should know better including Melville’s The Army of Shadows in their 2005 poll because it hadn’t been seen in New York prior to then. For me, the year is the year it was first seen, pure and simple. But that’s another story, for it’s rather the deliberation process itself that brings me circuitously to my point.
From what I have seen of it, 2010 has been a mediocre year. One look at Sam’s predicted top 10 contenders will show you that half of them are actually 2009 foreign entries (Lourdes, White Material, Mademoiselle Chambon, etc). And, to be honest, having seen all three, I can’t say I’m really a serious fan of either. I can see why dear old Sam loved Lourdes, it’s almost Bressonian in its restraint. The problem is that it goes nowhere; Bressonian doesn’t make it Bresson. Looking over the list of 2010 films I feel like General Melchett in Blackadder Goes Forth when looking at a map of the Western Front and muttering “God, it’s a barren featureless desert out there.” He was looking at the wrong side of the map, and I here ask myself, am I looking at the wrong side of the map?
Take the directors regarded as masters. Scorsese is seen as the best American director, but one cannot escape a feeling that he’s making films increasingly with old classics in mind and has been for the best part of two decades; The Age of Innocence was his homage to Visconti, Casino a homage to himself, Gangs of New York a film out of time and place, The Aviator a chance to homage pictorial styles of the 1930s and 40s, The Departed had enough references to old classics (my favourite to The Third Man in a cemetery scene) to sink Cameron’s liner and was, like Cape Fear, a remake, and Shutter Island went as far back as Caligari. There are good films in there, but can anyone truly say they are not the work of a master on autopilot, a ghost of film-making past, a past when Francis Ford Coppola and Woody Allen were masters, a fact that anyone who had seen only their output post circa 1990 would find impossible to comprehend.
Then there’s Spielberg, the ultimate master by his own convictions. Schindler’s List was seventeen years ago and was an exceptional if faintly manipulative movie which, let us not forget, was a story about hope, about the successful saving of several hundred Jews for which the extermination of several million was merely a backdrop (a point even his friend Stanley Kubrick was quick to make). Keyser Soze would be proud of how Spielberg has convinced the world he’s the master film-maker. He’s certainly a master at utilising the vox populi, but look at the output since; ghastly dinosaur and Indiana Jones sequels with no redeeming features whatsoever, the prototype virtual reality war of Saving Private Ryan, as conventional a war movie as even the most partisan propaganda of 1940s Hollywood offered, the embarrassing Amistad, the thoroughly mediocre Munich, the even worse War of the Worlds and the misguided Minority Report. The only saving grace was A.I., and he all but ruined that with that awful last act, drawing himself back from the abyss into his usual comfort zone.
It goes further, as witness Ridley Scott’s latest production line effort being no longer a thing to salivate over but groan about. Gladiator was great entertainment for the masses, but no-one’s idea of great cinema, even if compared to Kingdom of Heaven and Robin Hood it might seem to be. Everything else made in between, meanwhile, not being worthy of getting out of bed for, let alone going to the cinema to see. A decade ago Oliver Stone was seen as a master, but when you have never actually made a great film and your last half decent one was Nixon fifteen years ago, you can consider serious interest in your work being pretty much vaporised. Michael Mann has his admirers, but he is the perfect representation of what is wrong in cinema today. Not forgetting Clint Eastwood, who we are supposed to be grateful towards for still working at 80, but for whom Unforgiven was his best and final say and everything since not worthy of cleaning the mud from Will Munny’s boots. When the likes of Mystic River and Letters from Iwo Jima are being proclaimed the work of a master, I begin to wonder whether certain critics know what a master really is. He’s a fine old-school craftsman capable of gems, but he’s on the level of Henry King, Clarence Brown or Henry Hathaway, safe directors pf prestige productions but let no-one mistake them for Welles, Ford or Hawks.
Then there’s David Cronenberg, often seen as one of modern cinema’s masters, but while I admire Crash’s burning-ice eroticism, admired aspects of Eastern Promises and think Spider may grow with age, I cannot embrace the likes of A History of Violence or Dead Ringers (despite Jeremy Irons’ legendary performance(s)) as anything remotely approaching mastery and the rest of his entire catalogue I could happily do without. His countryman Atom Egoyan meanwhile has been in freefall for over a decade. David Lynch is another matter, but even he seems to be taking audiences to their limits and seems now to have lost interest in cinema entirely. He’s 64 now, so can he muster the enthusiasm to keep pushing the boundaries? How much further can he take them after Inland Empire?
Even the shining light of the early nineties Quentin Tarantino has fallen to pattern, making cool films that he would like to see if he was a viewer, not realising that he isn’t the viewer, we are. Since Pulp Fiction, despite the technical proficiency of the first Kill Bill, I wouldn’t give you ten cents for the rest of his output and see no reason to believe that he’s going to change my mind any time soon. This is a world that has proclaimed Gus Van Sant a master (God help us), seen Wes Anderson as the next bright thing (who cares that he’s never made a satisfactory film), and worships James Cameron and Peter Jackson. Don’t get me wrong, I love The Lord of the Rings as much as the next man, but do I have any reason to believe that Jackson is anything other than one of the accepted, and that having crossed his Rubicon, or climbed his Mount Doom, the mediocrity of masterhood will not strike him down, too. While any self-respecting person who finds real merit in the likes of Titanic or Avatar needs to have a “TO LET” sign nailed into their cranium. A generation that praised Soderbergh’s Erin Brockovich and Traffic (disposable, both) but neglected The Girlfriend Experience, that praised Ang Lee’s Crouching Tiger and Brokeback Mountain – admittedly excellent films – but totally shunned what was easily his masterpiece, Lust, Caution.
For sure, there are talents amongst the up and comers, those with potential to rival the Coen Brothers in years to come; Darren Aronofsky, Noah Baumbach, Sam Mendes (if he doesn’t fall back to the theatre), Sofia Coppola, Andrew Dominik (if he doesn’t get disheartened at The Assassination of Jesse James‘ criminal neglect), Todd Haynes (if he avoids the pit of his own pretension), Alexander Payne (though let’s go back to the acid of Election, for About Schmidt was a backwards step and Sideways did exactly what it said in the title, despite the praise), Christopher Nolan (if he would only learn the lesson of Inception and give people a denouement, a prestige, worthy of them, rather than have his whole plot disappear up itself like it had turned into Synecdoche, New York), David Fincher (if he avoids the Benjamin Buttons of this world and is wise enough to know the praise for The Social Network is undeserved) and Paul Thomas Anderson, the one with surely the most potential, both for greatness and disillusionment, of the lot.
TV has again become a major rival, with series like The Wire and Deadwood matching and surpassing just about anything in American film in the last decade (ditto Red Riding and In a Land of Plenty in the UK), while as I write, of the five 2010 works I rate at ****½ and include in my book (I have seen no ***** work), four are from TV (Five Daughters, This is England ’86, The Trip and Carlos), while the other, A Serbian Film, is so repellent that one would be hard-pushed to recommend it to anyone. Films such as Winter’s Bone are decent enough, but lack entirely any real originality. Even Toy Story 3, which was clever enough and funny, was predictable. What did it REALLY have to offer that the superior first two instalments hadn’t already done? Nothing.
In Blighty the situation is little different. The likes of Andrea Arnold, Lynne Ramsay and Shane Meadows are fine talents, but can they avoid a sense of repetition? Brilliantly observed films about working class people are all well and good, but the anticipation becomes less prevalent until one develops almost nonchalance towards them as has now been the case with Mike Leigh and especially Ken Loach for some time (the same could also be said of their Francophone contemporaries, the Dardenne brothers). They’re part of the institution when they were so much better outside in the cold looking in. Peter Greenaway made his best film in decades with Nightwatching, but who saw it? Terence Davies is still on the outside, but masterful though Of Time and the City was, one was left with a sense of frustration and bitterness that he was unable to find backers for the work he doubtless still wants to make. It viewed like an elegy to his own career as much as the Liverpool of his youth. (He was not alone, though, even poor lamented Satoshi Kon struggled to find finance for his work, including that he was working on at the time of his death.)
Then there’s the increased proliferation of documentaries, which is a really worrying sign. Don’t get me wrong, these documentaries tell stories that need telling, but most of them are pure TV really. A perfect example being Adam Curtis’ political piece The Power of Nightmares, made for British TV but shown in some US art house cinemas. Many rate them masterpieces of the art, but can we really compare them to the work of Marcel Ophuls, Joris Ivens, Alain Resnais, Leni Riefenstahl, Pare Lorentz, Humphrey Jennings, Frederick Wiseman, Chris Marker, Dziga Vertov, or even modern TV masterpieces by Ken Burns. One can admire the likes of Iraq in Fragments, Taxi to the Dark Side and their ilk well enough, but if you want a great political documentary, try Patricio Guzman’s The Battle of Chile or Solanas’ The Hour of the Furnaces. Let’s not mistake perfunctory excellence with greatness, people. In the words of Malcolm Tucker, “wake up and smell the cock!“ That way when something magnificent does come along – like Wang Bing’s Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks - we can really rejoice. These documentaries are the equivalent of many an uplifting Hollywood movie whose story moves but whose camera too often doesn’t. Great documentaries go beyond merely telling the story, that should be taken for granted.
Only a week or two ago, when I posted my piece on Enter the Void, I referred to Gaspar Noé as an event film-maker, and one commentee – Jamie, I think – pondered what directors others see as event film-makers. For me, in American film, probably only Lynch and Malick (their long hiatuses between films having something to do with that), then Noé, Von Trier, Wong Kar-Wai, Sokurov and Haneke. I’d add Lav Diaz, but opportunities are so few and far between the event becomes impossible get invited to (like getting to see Wagner at Beyreuth and just about as long to sit through), while Tsai Ming-Liang, Abbas Kiarostami, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Lucrecia Martel and Nuri Bilge Ceylan are so eclectic that one can hardly call their works events. One admires them as one admires Rothko paintings, works that seem to mesmerise you to an inner void. Black hole cinema, if you like.
In France, who is left of the old masters – Resnais, Godard, Rivette, all past 80 as I speak – and their work increasingly recalls Browning’s Ozymandias. In the next generation or two there are Leconte, Chéreau, Tavernier, Denis, Téchine, Assayas, Audiard, Jeunet, Breillat, Desplechin, Ozon and Jaoui (I’ll leave Noé out for now). The result is that we live in an age where the likes of 35 Shots of Rum, Summer Hours, The Beat That My Heart Skipped, Those Who Love Me Can Take the Train, Rois et Reine and The Last Mistress can be proclaimed masterworks. Without wishing to be insulting, I don’t ask for Renoir, but Duvivier at least would be nice. In Italy, Bertolucci and Bellocchio are still working, but if Vincere was well received, it was only because Bellocchio had fallen into such a black hole over the recent few decades we wondered whether he was still alive. In Germany Wenders seems to have retired, to all intents and purposes, Herzog prefers the life of the nomad and hasn’t made a great film in nigh on 30 years and the new generation (von Donnersmarck, Hirschbiegel, Tykwer) follow the dubious example of Wolfgang Petersen and get blinded by the lights of Hollywood before they have had chance to develop their craft further in their own tongue. The age of Fassbinder working three lives in half of one and of Syberberg’s monumental Nietzschean epics seems an aeon ago. In Spain meanwhile, Almodóvar’s embracing by Hollywood hides the fact that he’s perhaps had his day, while Julio Medem and Alejandro Amenabar have not quite lived up to their promise. Austria has Götz Spielmann and Ulrich Seidl, Sweden have Roy Andersson (after three decades in the wilderness) and Lukas Moodysson (if he can avoid the path taken in his last three works) both capable of great things, Mexico has del Toro, Reygadas, Cuaron and Iñarritu, either one of which could prove a master if they stay aware from the lure of Hollywood. Australian ex-pat Peter Weir is still there in the background, but another masterpiece looks unlikely from one so hit and miss and Jane Campion could still make a comeback, but will have to do better than the rather rarefied Bright Star, beautiful to look at and well-acted by Abbie Cornish, but seemingly inflicted by the same consumption that killed Keats. In China Zhang Ke-Jia remains an acquired taste, Chen Kaige and Zhang Yimou have drifted away and Jiang Wen has gone into virtual obscurity, while Japan have Kore-Eda, Sono, Kurosawa and Nakashima. But can either really prove worthy successors to the masters of modern (post 1960) Japanese film, Oshima, Masumura and especially Yoshida? Then there’s Korea, but are Kim Ki-duk and Park Chan-wook really the masters of tomorrow? I sincerely doubt it.
How can film-makers develop their own identity in the face of so much depressing, tabloid-style so-called criticism, where a talent is instantly called the new such-a-body and their film described in the payoff as “like…..meets…” Is it any wonder that true originality, true lightning bolts of brilliance get lost in the shuffle. As a case in point, the best film of the last decade, Shion Sono’s Love Exposure, remains virtually unknown in the US. Even Sam, who bought a copy after I placed it number one in the poll in July, still hasn’t watched it to the best of my knowledge as, for him, the film doesn’t exist until it makes it to a big screen. The desire to stay on top of new releases is just too much, he’s like Pacman but with Manhattan as his game screen and movie ticket stubs in place of dots, replenished not with occasional flashes of fruit but with egg whites.
So what is the problem? A lack of truly encompassing criticism for one, as many of the younger generation of critics just don’t have the necessary grounding in cinematic history. Criticism is no longer about a voice read by followers religiously. It’s rather about a voice who gives the target readership what they want to read. A populace drawn by what worthless sites like Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic says, or periodicals from Variety to Empire. If they’re gospel, give me the apocrypha.
Let me take an example. Surveyed in 2005, Empire readers listed the 25 greatest directors of all time as Steven Spielberg, Alfred Hitchcock, Martin Scorsese, Stanley Kubrick, Ridley Scott, Akira Kurosawa, Peter Jackson, Quentin Tarantino, Orson Welles, Woody Allen, Clint Eastwood, David Lean, The Coen Brothers (despite Joel being the actual director until recently), James Cameron, Francis Ford Coppola, Oliver Stone, Sergio Leone, John Ford, Billy Wilder and Sam Peckinpah. No-one could deny any of them (well, maybe Stone, Tarantino and Cameron) a place in the Hall of Fame, but only one foreign director (simply because Kurosawa did cool things with samurai swords, mention Ikiru to them and the same people who voted for him would look at you with a blank expression like you’ve just asked them to recite Newton’s second law of motion) and only four directors in the list who made all their best films before 1960 (with Kurosawa and Kubrick overlapping that date). And seeing names like Robert Zemeckis, Brian DePalma, Tony Scott, Tim Burton, George Lucas, Ron Howard and M.Night Shyamalan in amongst the nearlies (along with Lang, Hawks and Bergman), with all due respect to them, it just makes me do a Howard Beale and head for the nearest window.
Some say blogging is killing regular criticism, but in truth it’s often improving it. Sure, there are people undertaking monumental tasks online they are not prepared for, but there is a lot of respected and respectful writing out there in the blogosphere which threatens mainstream criticism as potently as the asteroid threatened the dinosaurs. It sounds condescending, but we really need to educate people about the true quality of great film, because we’re in danger of a generation who think of Star Wars, Jaws, Halloween and The Exorcist as their monuments. Van Gogh, Renoir and Monet are all well and good, but let’s not pretend that Caravaggio, Raphael, Vermeer and Rembrandt never existed. Education was the mission statement of my book, and in doing so, it may also prevent me from finally despairing of the state of modern cinema appreciation. Over the last few days, in the pit of despair of my malady, I found myself rewatching Shoah and Rees’ Auschwitz, as if to put my sufferings in their proper perspective. Yet in writing and doing so for the reasons I continue to do, maybe Spielberg was right to show the ray of hope, the coloured candle lit on the Sabbath. Here’s to lighting candles, but please let’s make sure the subject of the altar is worthy of the tribute.







You called television cinemas major rival once again and cited DEADWOOD and THE WIRE as two that really stood out to the point of giving cinema a run for the money.
I’m interested, Allan, to know what your critical thoughts were towards THE SOPRANOS, SIX FEET UNDER and THE WEST WING????
SIX FEET UNDER was my favorite show of this past deacde, the critics adored it. THE SOPRANOS was a phenomenon here in the states, and THE WEST WING was not only a critically lauded show, but a big Emmy taker. Just curious.
For me The West Wing was the most problematic of all in that it was so pleased with itself. If I want politics, I prefer the raw satire of The Thick of It. Six Feet Under was good, but not great for me. The Sopranos was largely superb, but had its dips. The Wire and Deadwood had none.
“The West Wing” more or less gave up on being any real significant commentary on modern American politics somewhere around the time when Bush came into office. At that point, Sorkin stopped writing a snappy, smart piece of Capra-esque populism and started writing outright liberal masturbatory wish-fulfilment fantasy. It was basically what you watched if you wanted something that would make you forget that a Republican was President for the space of an hour.
American satire tends to lean more towards the cartoon than anything else. That’s why we have stuff like “Doonesbury” or “South Park”. And lately I’m not even sure that the American political experience really needs much satire. The Tea Party, for instance, is quite cartoonish enough on its own.
“It was basically what you watched if you wanted something that would make you forget that a Republican was President for the space of an hour.”
Aye, Bob. I must say I completely agree! What you before that too is great stuff.
Bob, mark this one down for the annals, I am in 100% agreement with you.
Mind you, Fish, I can only say that about “The West Wing” with confidence because that was the very reason I watched it during the Bush administration. It’s as though the left-wingers in this country disassociated themselves with reality en masse during those 8 years, except for the ones in Congress who kept enabling him. As a die-hard Democrat, I really wish that my party would give up on compromise, sometimes, and just vote what they believe.
I also recall that Joel once pointed out that American satire tends to avoid politics more partly because our whole national identity is wrapped up in representational politics, while Brits always still have the safety net of the crown, so there’s that, too. By and large, though, I think some of our best works on national politics tend to arrive like so many of the best auteur-theory driven pieces, and fly under the radar, especially with the guise of the fantastical. At its best moments, “The X-Files” was the most positively subversive thing on US television, indicting just about every organized hall of power in America and abroad imaginable in complicity with sinister conspiracies and cover-ups. Look past the metaphor of UFO’s and alien-colonization, and you’ve got something far closer to “the truth” than anyone would care to admit.
It was just designed to make one have faith in the corrupt political process again. Itr’s written by the man who wrote the unpardonable The American President after all.
Basically, what both sell is the fundamental lie of politician with Democratic principles and Republican cajones. Unfortunately, the only ones who seem to have the kind of stones it takes to push anything through the system anymore are liars, complete idiots or tend to act as a magnet for bullets.
As for the degree of my own political faith– I’m not naive about the corruption, but I can’t let myself get too cynical, either. My creed is best summed up by the poster Mulder kept up on his basement wall “I WANT TO BELIEVE”. Maybe it’s just the Catholic in me.
A quick addendum, and really a correction towards the whole appreciation of Sorkin thing in general. Most people, myself included, tend to label his work in TAP and TWW as “Capra-esque”, which it certainly is, but not if you mean to describe it as being similar to works like “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington”. That movie, while stridently populist, was a rather bleak and cynical work, in its own cartoonishly moralistic way, showing off the flagrant corruption of Washington and how it all but requires a fluke of fate to see any real governance get accomplished, not to mention a rookie Senator filibustering his way into martyrdom. Instead, Sorkin’s political efforts resemble more Capra as a fashioner of WWII propaganda, as that’s pretty much what both his film and series amounted to, after a while– slick, polished and well dramatized political advertisements. And I recognize the fact that it’s selling a broken, or at the very least wildly outdated system, but I’d be a hypocrite if I said I didn’t also enjoy it, for what it is.
OK, so this is the take on THE WEST WING…
Now, how about an appraisal of my favorite show of the decade, SIX FEET UNDER. I would think that this show of the three I asked about would garner uniformly glowing reviews and praise. I know Allan “liked” it, but where do the others here at WITD stand on this show?????
For me, I thought it one of the most expertly and realistically written, housed some of the best performances by an ensemble cast and was a bold commentary on how death is, like it or not, a part of everyone’s day to day existence whether we know it or not. The show ping-ponged effortlessly from day-to-day reality to surrealism and back and, like so many episodic television series with running story-lines don’t do, presented itself almost like the chapters of a massive novel…
So, guys? gals? What’s the verdict?????
ALSO: Considering that Allan seems to feel that DEADWOOD and THE WIRE were uniformly perfect TV series each…
Again, I am interested in the rest of the groups takes on these shows.
Myself, I cannot argue with ALLAN on either of these series as I was very positive towards THE WIRE and almost fanatical over DEADWOOD (a show that I wished and prayed would see renewal and more episodes)…
Curious….
“Deadwood” was good in its first season, but by and large that was all I needed. Beyond that, it was just more and more and more of the same. Ian McShane was great in it, but I prefer the gravitas he portrayed in “Kings” a lot more. My memory of “The Wire” fades somewhat, so perhaps I’ll try and pick that up while the post-XMas sales are going. As I recall, though, it was good, but never anywhere near as good as the reputation it has, where it’s all but canonized by Pope Palpatine himself. I think sometimes that TV critics have something of a bias towards anything with the call letters H, B and O.
Allan, you know I’m with you over the top 10 business, the year it was shown for the first time is the year of the movie, no doubts.
While I agree that 2010 wasn’t that good of a year, I don’t agree with most of the arguments shown here about the current state of film.
I’ve been a fool to not ask before, but… what book is everyone talking about? You have one? Where? Is this blog your book or is it a methaforical one?
Good point on Patricio Guzman’s Battle of Chile trilogy, I hope you can catch “Nostalgy of the Light”, which really holds up as one hell of a visual and mind experience as those films were.
Sam, if you haven’t seen “Love Exposure” and have a copie… you are “so dumb, for real”. I wish I could see this on a daily basis on my Dvd playing 24/7, but no, I just have to conform with my own ways of seeing it sometimes.
That reminds me, I have this post, if anyone wants stills of “Love Exposure”, they can have mine here, they are full (I think) quality. http://exodus8-2.blogspot.com/2009/11/and-if-i-have-prophecy-and-know-all.html
The book is basically done. It’s what the reviews are taken from, Jaime. I had hoped to wrap up the last over the Xmas period but the illness from hell has prevented it.
I think you have your map upside down. Mentioning Scorcese, Spielberg, and Tarantino doesn’t make me doubt it one bit. Where’s Nora Ephron, James Cameron, and Ed Zwick? Oh, right.
Then you mentioned Kim and Chan from Korea instead of Lee and, well, your map is upside down. Lee from Korea, an abundance of great filmmakers from Germany, the rising group of Chileans, the Soviet Bloc masters like Skolimowski, German (new film coming, and don’t forget his son!), Muratova, Iosseliani… These are the seeds of fertile film criticism. Stop salting the earth with your revenge murder fantasy filmmakers (Tarantino and Park are the masters of this filth)!
I mean no animosity in that, but you must sleep in the bed you’ve made.
Now if only someone would give Andrzej Zulawski some money to make his film!
How is life on your planet, Leaves? It aint Earth, that’s for sure. Keep taking the tablets, son.
So while you rail against those ‘regarded as masters’, apparently dismissing those whose opinions raised those particular people to the status of ‘masters’, you then say that I’m bizarre for sharing your disregard but then seeking out others who make films that are, you know, great? Yes, it is a bizarre place. Little Fockers does not make 30 million dollars there. It’s a nice place.
Perhaps it’s the revenge murder remark. Because we all know that there is absolutely no revenge murder in (Park or Chan or Wook)’s films or in Tarantino’s, am I right? None of that.
When you complain about the bad films of the world and yet have seen multiple films by those people you complain about then, well, that’s your fault. Complaining helps, though, for sure. Keep those great filmmakers unnamed. That’ll solve everything.
You need to make your command of the language easier to decipher, Leaves. Read through your original post again. The first paragraph you accuse me of having the map upside down. Then you rail on about Skolimowski, Muratova, figures who haven’t made a decent film in over 20 years, or Iossellani, who I just simply wasn’t a fan of to any serious degree. And mention Zulawski, whose best films (Third Part of the Night, The Devil) weren’t up to that much to begin with.
And then this “Stop salting the earth with your revenge murder fantasy filmmakers” and mention a director called German (and his son, no less).
In the words of Manuel, que?
‘I feel like General Melchett in Blackadder Goes Forth when looking at a map of the Western Front and muttering “God, it’s a barren featureless desert out there.”’
Your map motif, not mine. I was simply agreeing with your point, being that what your map has led you to is awful. The opposite of awful – good. Flipping a map around re-orients it toward the opposite. See how that works? Amazing stuff.
I can’t quite figure out if your entire point boils down to: I’m crazy for liking filmmakers that you don’t like, despite the fact that this entire post is about you disliking the filmmakers that everyone else likes. I get that you can’t parse my writing, but can you not parse your own writing?
I can’t tell if you don’t know who Alexei German is or if you simply disagree with my appreciation for his films (and his son’s films), but the rest of your point merely seems to be, “You like filmmakers that I don’t.” OK. That’s interesting. Or maybe you’re simply making a bad pun. If so, wow.
To answer your question (que?): Yes, the front that your map has led you to (Kim Ki-Duk and Park Chan-Wook, as the most hilarious examples) is certainly a useless one. You may not in fact like any of Lee Chang-Dong’s films, and I don’t care. I’m not you. I share my thoughts, they may match yours, they may not. Nothing crazy about that. It’s actually very common. Amazing stuff, I know. Definitely something to lob a dismissive comment at.
Seems you entirely missed the point of the “map” quote and instread just set out to be confrontational. We have enough of those around here, Leaves, believe me.
I was commenting on the state of current cinema and the field as I see it. You have your rights to an opinion, of course. I defend to the last your rights to be mistaken.
Oh Stephen, not Michael Mann, please. Not Michael Mann.
“Oh Stephen, not Michael Mann, please. Not Michael Mann.”
Sorry. Any particular reason?
As for great filmmaker unnamed, maybe to you, but Alexei German. Fair enough, I admit I have only seen one of his films – My Friend Ivan Lapshin, but I have to admit I can’t think of many who place him in the level of greatness – leave that for Tarkovsky. Your mention of Muratova is a better choice, but even so, you’re listing people based on their work pre 1990 and it’s pretty obvious I was talking about contemporary landscape of cinema (hence mentioning Sokurov). Anyone can rhyme off Shepitko, the Chukhrais, Konchalovsky, etc. Skolimowski made the wonderful Deep End, but that was 1970 I believe, and while I like Barrier and Moonlighting, they’re not major works and he himself doesn’t really rank with say Kieslowski, Has, Kawalerowicz, Munk, Wajda or even Ford. Hell why not mention the Czech masters? Reason I didn’t? They made their great films quite a while ago.
As for Lee Chang-Dong, I’ll give you I could have included him, but if you’d been here longer, Leaves, you’d know I write off the top of my head – no scouring for names and research – so I just forgot him (there are others). But Peppermint Candy is not a film I found a major work, despite its admirers.
As for railing against masters and blaming it on me for watching them, would you think it’s better to dismiss them WITHOUT seeing them. I won’t even go there.
I’ll just quote the essay, Stephen.
“Michael Mann has his admirers, but he is the perfect representation of what is wrong in cinema today.”
Heat is his only film worthy of anything approaching greatness. The Insider is very good. Manhunter not bad. The rest I can frankly do without. Though I’ll say this, he’s not as bad as Gus Van Sant, Ron Howard or Tim Burton.
“Though I’ll say this, he’s not as bad as Gus Van Sant, Ron Howard or Tim Burton.”
Well I agree with you there. I don’t know how much of your problem with Mann’s films is the visual style. For me his strength is his storytelling, slowly building emotional intensity. A lot of modern films are bitty. You can easily watch parts out of context. I don’t think PUBLIC ENEMIES or MIAMI VICE are like that – they have a sweep that, for me, reaches towards the epic. You can’t chop bits off.
By the way, interesting choice of still for the piece – looking forward from Christmas and so forth…
‘Seems you entirely missed the point of the “map” quote and instread just set out to be confrontational. We have enough of those around here, Leaves, believe me.’
Please.
‘Your mention of Muratova is a better choice, but even so, you’re listing people based on their work pre 1990 and it’s pretty obvious I was talking about contemporary landscape of cinema (hence mentioning Sokurov). Anyone can rhyme off Shepitko, the Chukhrais, Konchalovsky, etc.’
I can’t tell whether you’re being confrontational by insulting me for having a differing opinion or just being dismissive here.
‘I defend to the last your rights to be mistaken.’
Your opinion is ‘right’ and anyone who disagrees is ‘mistaken’? Ah, you’re just a douche.
As for ‘people who place Alexei German in the level of greatness’, his film was the consensus pick for the best Russian film ever made by the Russian critics in a consensus AND by Tarkovsky personally, so…
‘As for railing against masters and blaming it on me for watching them, would you think it’s better to dismiss them WITHOUT seeing them. I won’t even go there.’
Since I explicitly excluded this possibility it’s rather silly that you would go there.
Leaves, buddy, I have always appreciated your comments and insights here and elsewhere. I don’t think we would want to compromise any of that by contentiousness and misunderstandings. You seem to have come on very aggressively, and I hope you were still trying to be constructive. You seem to have an excellent background in cinema.
‘You seem to have come on very aggressively, and I hope you were still trying to be constructive.’
‘How is life on your planet, Leaves? It aint Earth, that’s for sure. Keep taking the tablets, son.’
Please tell me how the quoted is constructive and not aggressive and insulting.
I intended and still find my opening post to be completely playful in tone, and entirely on topic. What topic? Blogging improving film criticism, as evidenced below. I think this post misses that mark, and I attempted to express it without animosity, and I stated that explicitly. If you have a problem with what I wrote, let’s talk about it. If you don’t have a problem with what he wrote, then I see no reason to ever comment on this blog again.
‘Some say blogging is killing regular criticism, but in truth it’s often improving it.’
But that blogging is improving criticism wasn’t the point of the post, merely a statement within it. The point was a curmudgeonly feeling about the state of cinema and the complacency of some ‘masters’.
I’m sorry if you were offended by my first response, but your first comment was an attack and at the very least, seriously ambiguous. There is nothing wrong with you mentioning directors I didn’t, but your tone was one of superiority, of “what does this guy know?” Whether meant or not, that was the impression.
As for “I defend your right to be mistaken’, it’s merely in in-joke round here, referring to how one’s own opinions are always the one we hang fast to.
It’s your choice what you do now. You’re welcome to return, you may not want to. But bear in mind an air of superiority has always – and will always – be met with hostility in some quarters here. Up to you.
Great write-up Allan.
For me the future of American Cinema (I hope) lies in the hands of Michael Mann, Terrence Malick, Richard Kelly, Sofia Coppola and, to a lesser extent, Darren Aronofsky and Alex Proyas. Would that the majority of critics would be open to the more imaginative and idiosyncratic work of true storytellers as opposed to the hermetic, tedious, safe and soulless films that usually win awards or garner widespread praise.
In the wider world I would say that Jean-Luc Godard still leads the way, with FILM SOCIALISME the film of the year. Liu Jiayin’s OXHIDE (2005) makes me think she will make excellent films in the coming years too.
Whilst Kim Ji Woon has disappointed since A TALE OF TWO SISTERS Park Chan Wook has just made his best film, THIRST.
Correction : “would that the majority of critics WERE…”
I thought A TALE OF TWO SISTERS was rather dull, but his new one, I SAW THE DEVIL is the best work I’ve seen from him on a number of levels. Brilliantly technical and innovative (a spinning camera inside a cab is such a show off moment, but it works beautifully), and artistically innovative. It’s a great extreme film; a benchmark one if you will. I believe it comes to dvd soon, and it’s recently gotten foreign distribution so it may be at a theater near you.
(oh and it’s leaked too…)
Man you sound eerily similar to crazed record collectors that listen to so much music that they start hating everything. The obsession becomes a chore instead of an enjoyment. Art is all opinions anyway. There is no true greatness. It is all in the eye of the beholder. Sure some like Welles, Kubrick, and Malick are technical masters but even their films are subjective to its audience. I for one would rather watch a favorite Cronenberg or Mann film over some dated obsolete bullshit like the majority of Ford or Hawks’ output. Sure those guys produced some classics (The Big Sleep and Valance) but they represent an America that never existed. Its like some right wing poem to the good old days…….. give me Ray, Tournuer and Wilder over those two overrated relics any time.
“There is no true greatness. It is all in the eye of the beholder.”
Yes. For me, Maurizio, each beholder can bestow greatness. It doesn’t have to be objective (if such a thing exists) but your own personal truth. Either others agree or they don’t.
I see no reason why “I think this film is great” can not or should not be rephrased as “this film is great”.
I thought EASTERN PROMISES was Cronenberg’s best film so far. It’s not particularly excellent but it gripped me in ways his other films didn’t – it had a strong emotional tug that played well against the cool, slick and dark aesthetic.
I love Eastern Promises but I find Dead Ringers and A History Of Violence to be slightly better personally. Those three are my Cronenberg favorites. I’m not a huge fan of his horror films (The Fly and The Dead Zone are okay).
“I’m not a huge fan of his horror films”
Me neither.
As for Mann…..
Great- Heat, Public Enemies
Good- Thief, The Insider, Mohicans
Meh- Collateral, Manhunter
Terrible- The Keep, Ali, Miami Vice
Only my opinion of course…….. :0)
You can’t be a fan of his Horror films if you list ‘Dead Zone’ and ‘The Fly’. ‘The Fly’ has it’s admirers, but ‘Dead Zone’ may be the worst, un-Cronenbergian film in his catalog (I’m obviously not counting ‘Fast Company’ or whatever it’s called). For his great Horror output, seek ‘Videodrome’, ‘Dead Ringers’ (a film I see has already been mentioned), ‘The Brood’, etc.
I’m a rabid Cronenberg fan, as many know around here, and I think his two greatest films are ‘Dead Ringers’, and ‘Eastern Promises’. EP had me depressed for days, it’s his film that works the best between the lines, imho. I’m also with Maurizio in that I rank ‘History’ pretty highly.
Being a fan mostly of his sci-fi output, the last Cronenberg movie I cared much about was “eXistenZ”. Though I’m hopeful on that upcoming Freud vs. Jung flick, and especially his DeLillo adaptation…
To a degree you’re right, Maurizio. It’s just a certain despair at the state of film and how some titles are too easily conferred on directors not worthy of them. We have to keep pushing and promoting, but the more I know the more I realise we are so far behind the old guard.
Then I see that Little Fockers is the number one movie in America and I start disagreeing with everything I wrote above lol. There is clearly some imaginary line, which Walter Sobchak warned us about crossing, where stuff like Hawks, Welles, Mann and Cronenberg can be argued in terms of subjective greatness but Ben Stiller is simply discarded into a trash bin.
My first sentence is a direct critique on myself. I was that guy that had to step back and not listen to music for like 7 months. It really helped in keeping things fresh. When you overindulge, everything starts to seem stale and irrelevant. I wonder if you have seen True Grit yet? What is your opinion……. and yes I am no huge fan of Hawks and Ford.
Maurizio, I certainly know where you are coming from and what you are talking about, but I’ve always thought the remedy easy: Keep it a passion. When it becomes excessively about lists, ranking, critical, etc then yes it does become a chore and one looses all joy.
I’ve remained that my Beatles series is a ‘celebration’ of British music, because since the kernel of the idea popped in my brain about 6 months ago it’s all I’ve listen to (after an adult life of large chunks of the stuff). Never have I approached the stuff critically, and thus, it’s remained fresh and fun.
“I deplore year end lists simply because I don’t follow the rules of US critics of having to be shown in their country at that time.”
To deplore the essence of a year’s artistic accomplishments because of a minute “technicality” (that is at least uniformly adherred to) is like rejecting a delicious dinner in a five-star restaurant because you don’t like the look of the place settings. As I’ve said to you many times the method used by the US critics has some sense of sense and immediacy, and it allows year-end lists to appear when enthusiasm for them is most pronounced. While you continue to see it as some kind of USA “superiority” on display I see it as a rationale way to take stock of what was seen over the prior twelve months. Too much emphasis is placed here on release dates. To have such a meaningless matter compromise all the fun of making the lists is the height of ‘raining on one’s parade.”
Not at all, it’s just that when you get into the mindset for a year end list, you forget to clear it when you look back. Someone thus asks you a few years from now your best of 2010, you say LOURDES, they point out that was 2009. All the talk about “oh it never appeared in US cinemas till 2010 so doesn’t count till then” will just be downright silly.
But we have had this argument before numerous times, as I mentioned in the piece, and this is all you can write about? Standing up for your right to make a list?
Let me explain/reiterate something to you here. I do not make personal year-end lists to conform to posterity or any kind of a regimented international uniformity. I make them (like 99% of the US critics) to take stock of the previous year’s cinematic accomplishments as seen in US theatres or in some instances on a screener or debuting DVD. To attempt to turn back the hands of time, would not only be sillier than what you claim here, but it would fly in the face of the fun, which after all is why the lists are made in the first place.
Oh no, I will have more to say here momentarily.
At times, I think it’s worth putting a late entry onto an end-of-the-year list if for no other reason than to motivate distributors to be a bit more punctual at international releases. Had “Dogtooth” been in US theaters last year, I would’ve put it in the top ten of the decade’s best works. Instead, I’ll just have to put it in my top ten for this year, with the caveat of it being a belated release.
This is part of the problem here. Many critics do include films seen on the festival circuit in their end of year. I mean, take foreign language films that show traditionally in Jan and Feb, they show in LA in December to qualify for the awards season, so does it have to be in your city? That’s daft. You’ve seen Dogtooth and in cinemas. That being the case, you include it if it’s good enough. Hell, it even gives you a certain advantage over others, and half the reason many critics do the lists is oneupmanship.
Even on the festival circuit, a lot of movies still don’t make it quite as far as you seem to think, Fish. I’m in New York, and “Dogtooth” wasn’t playing here in ’09. Hell, Greece is even submitting the film for Oscar consideration as a 2010 release. While I might’ve had it as the top film for last year, I certainly won’t be doing so at the expense of one of this year’s best releases. But I also won’t ignore it, either.
‘Someone thus asks you a few years from now your best of 2010, you say LOURDES, they point out that was 2009. All the talk about “oh it never appeared in US cinemas till 2010 so doesn’t count till then” will just be downright silly’
haha
If someone in 7,000,000 years asked you what your favorite film released domestically in 2010 was then ‘Lourdes’ would be a legitimate answer. It’s just a different standard, and one which excludes fewer films in the short term and thus makes much more sense in the short term. What doesn’t make any sense ever is bickering over release dates, especially when it is the result of gross myopia. That is silly.
Leaves, I have argued this point for sure, and hopefully there will be a common ground we can reach at some point.
Well, I will say this: It’s superbly-written. For the use of similes,(that detective waiting for an arrest is great!) the command of everything filmic, and the best historical background of any blogger out there (and this includes the professional ranks) you are untouchable. Your dour world view and wry humor go well beyond the nasty invasion of the fluYour word economy runs circles around some who beliece length is the pre-requisite to writing a great review. For several years now, you have proven otherwise, occasionally penning a longer piece to prove you can go this route at will. One day your book will be published and you will be seen as the genius that you are, but oh what high maintenence my friend!
Your outlook here, though exceedingly well-argued is inordinantly harsh. Geez, I’ve seen well over 250 movies in theatres this past year, and maybe 2/3 are sup-par, as I’ve stated on the diaries. To then come barreling in here to question the very few films I’ve embraced (and I thought I was playing the role of snob to the hilt) on technical grounds, and even more, is the proverbial raining on the viewer’s parade. Every year there are several outstanding films. To take the position that 99% of what is made sucks, well if I felt that way I would personally find another pastime. As to LOURDES going nowhere, apparently few would agree with you there. This purposefully enigmatic film incorporates elements of spirituality and black comedy to inform it’s ravishing aesthetics and tonal purity. Yeah it’s Bressonian, but it follows that master with a singular stroke of genius. If I though it “went nowhere” I wouldn’t have penned this review here at WitD earlier this year:
http://wondersinthedark.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/5497/
In any case, the cinema is alive and artistically thriving. For those 20 or 25 worthwhile films we get every year (soem indeed brilliant) it’s worth suffering through the 200 or so that fail to connect or establish artistry.
Indeed. One must drink a lot of sour milk to understand creme. Is that the saying I’m looking for? Something like that. The joy of film is watching films, and sometimes what’s great about it isn’t what’s happening on screen. (the horror trash classic PIECES speaks on this)
I’m not saying it sucks, I’m saying it’s not great, and it’s the great stuff that keeps us going, not the merely good. I don’t live for The Kids Are All Right or The Social Network, I live in hope of things as good as Red Riding or Love Exposure. I wasn’t attacking you personally re those three films, I just picked those as examples of 2009 hold overs. I admit I should have added Un Prophète in there as well, which is excellent, but again, I’m writing off the cuff.
You are not harsh, not by a long shot, old friend. You are less favourable than some but a long way from harsh. You may think you are on percentages, but they mean nothing, that’s for the idiots who go to rottentomatoes and salivate of 95% positive (whoopee feckin’ do) and 38 against 2.
LOL!!!!!
I have indeed been accused even at this site of being lenient and designating many masterpieces, but the proof is in the pudding. My star ratings are far from that, and those ***** ratings that come up on the diaries are mostly in assessing bonafide classics shown at Film Forum retrospectives.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that Kurosawa’s RAN, Mann’s THE MAN FROM LARAMIE, Teshigahara’s THE WOMAN IN THE DUNES, and Chaplin’s CITY LIGHTS are five-star movies. When part of your weekly diet is seeing masterpieces on the big screens, the masterpiece rating will surely follow.
Essentially the star ratings are probably different to yours. ***** is the absolute creme de la creme. ****½ is for the exceptional but not quite great. But by adding both together for the purposes of the book and for qualifying for reviews, it gives a more balanced outlook.
It could also boil down to this. You are an extreme optimist who flies int he face of reality. You are the person who went out in the snow to watch a documentary with the attitude “damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead…weathermen, what the fuck do they know”. You’re the guy who took me to the Empire State Building when the weather was shite and still insisted the sun would break through and there would be clear visibility and when we got there and were told “zero” looked as if “how could this be?” You will always look on the bright side. I’m the exact polar opposite. The light at the end of the tunnel is some bastard with a torch bringing more misery. Death is merely parole from life. When I finally catch up with Bengt Ekerot I’ll shout “where have you been, you bastard!” You are drawn to the emotional, the uplifting, the serene, the religious, anything with opera in it. To you, life flows to the music of Verdi and Puccini, for me it runs remorselessly to Part, Kilar, Wagner, Dowland and Purcell.
It’s all a matter of climate.
Well I do love Wagner and Purcell too. And Bergman and Von Trier. But I hear ya.
Allen interesting you put Part in the remorseless category. What I love about his music is that it is so emotionally elusive. It can be looked at as both depressing and live affirming at the same time. Something like Fur Alina seems to suggest a lack of God or perhaps a God that has forgotten his children, yet the same composition can reach levels of profundity that maybe comments on some eternal human beauty within. I like to think of Part’s music as a struggle between these two conflicts. A continuing disaccord of emotions within one’s soul.
I love Part, Maurizio, but they didn’t play him in Mother Night and the Beeb’s Auschwitz for nothing.
A great impassioned piece here Allan.
To me, reading between the lines, one thing this article could champion is genre filmmaking. This is just one reason I like extreme Horror so much, it’s a genre that warrants ‘new’, ‘boundary-pushing’, and experimentation. Consider the past few years: Sono’s films, Noe’s, ANTICHRIST, SERBIAN FILM, AFTERMATH/GENESIS, I SAW THE DEVIL, IN MY SKIN, TROUBLE EVERY DAY, ANATOMY OF HELL, the films of de Heer (ALEXANDRA’s PROJECT and BAD BOY BUBBY), SOMBRE, Miike, etc. Love it or hate it, it’s cinema that’s trying.
But, wanting to look with an eye seeing the glass half full one can take this paragraph:
“Lynch and Malick (their long hiatuses between films having something to do with that), then Noé, Von Trier, Wong Kar-Wai, Sokurov and Haneke. I’d add Lav Diaz, but opportunities are so few and far between the event becomes impossible get invited to (like getting to see Wagner at Beyreuth and just about as long to sit through), while Tsai Ming-Liang, Abbas Kiarostami, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Lucrecia Martel and Nuri Bilge Ceylan are so eclectic that one can hardly call their works events.”
There you list 13 directors, speaking on the notion that there is SOME quality being made (add Miike, Breillat and Denis for event filmmakers too). I’d guess that if you chose ANY year at random in film history that you’d always come up with about 20 people of the highest quality, and here we are no different. But alas, your crux is that today’s masterworks are both not as plentiful nor as great as the ones of the past. Here I wouldn’t argue (even if I disagreed), as it’s to much to consider and too slippery of a slope to debate. Cinema is a (relatively) limited form, at least as limited as other linear narrative art forms, so there will always be ebbs and flows. It’s easy to understand that a low point would happen as there as been such a large gulf in technology in the era you consider (post-1990). Artists need time to sift through all the new tools, gadgets, and story-telling aids. Problem is, when one is grasped by the artist, another is already here to replace it. It’s the young that will solve these riddles and tell the ‘new films’, but this generation is just now approaching 30… as David Byrne said in the great track ‘Road to Nowhere’ (itself a prophetic title to this topic):
“WELL WE KNOW WHERE WE’RE GOIN’
BUT WE DON’T KNOW WHERE WE’VE BEEN
AND WE KNOW WHAT WE’RE KNOWIN’
BUT WE CAN’T SAY WHAT WE’VE SEEN
AND WE’RE NOT LITTLE CHILDREN
AND WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT
AND THE FUTURE IS CERTAIN
GIVE US TIME TO WORK IT OUT”
And this isn’t even mentioning a few directors I personally really like, that are innovative and wholly original, (we can debate ‘master’ status some other time) such as Jarmusch, Solondz, Sono, (early he’s crap now more or less) Labute, and de Van. I also feel David Gordon Green has a masterpiece in him, hopefully he can produce it at some point. Pushing this number past 20.
Cheer up old chap as this doesn’t even consider the greatest movement in cinema history, that were smack dab in the middle of: the widespread home market. You may think that today’s youth are wholly film ignorant, but I’d disagree… never in the history of film have young people had such access to masterpieces. Think about a 15 year old film fan at any time in cinema’s history, in say middle America. In any year he wouldn’t have seen, or even been aware of anything happening in France, let alone SE Asia. Now, with netflix he can have access to more then 20 Godards, more then 30 Bergman’s, etc. Jonathan Rosenbaum wrote a great piece about this idea, that I see has become a book, ‘Goodbye Cinema, Hello Cinephilia: Film Culture in Transition’. Here, as you point out, the challenge just becomes pointing these kids in the right directions, which is infinitely easier then the initial challenge of making all these films available to him, which our culture has solved to a degree.
I already shared my thoughts with Allan on this essay (I mostly sympathized) but I just wanted to mention that what Jamie says here is true, and perhaps taken for granted by all of us. This is indeed an unprecedented golden age for film-viewing (with the slight caveat that the communal experience has diminished, but I think the trade-off is immensely beneficial). This is HUGE. Oftentimes, when a somewhat fallow period is followed by unexpected surge in interesting work, it’s because a generation has been discovering/re-discovering the films of the past and incorporating them into their own perspective. So something very good – aside from just the value in seeing great art, which shouldn’t be underestimated – could come out of this age of Netflix/Criterion/torrents/You Tube/blogosphere etc. Fingers crossed.
Yes, very true, Joel, but also holding up a mirror perhaps to certain shortcomings, while making up for any shortfall in modern masterpieces by always having the potential to discover old ones.
Oh, and let me add this: as soon as my next pay check arrives I’m buying that god damn double disc LOVE EXPOSURE. I love Sono, but I haven’t seen it, I’ll self-flagellate now.
Also as a last point, “Van Gogh, Renoir and Monet are all well and good, but let’s not pretend that Caravaggio, Raphael, Vermeer and Rembrandt never existed.” really has me interested… the modernity that is film! And you list painters who all worked in impressionism, a movement of the 1870s +/-. Surely a lover of film would love the modernity that is Duchamp, Picasso, Raschenberg, Johns, de Kooning (or any of the New York School)
And I understand your initial point on it was to merely not forget the past, which is well taken. But it seems in film everything is modern, and everything classical.
Me thinks this is an excellent point Jamie. But God, you are really on fire today!
See, this is why I love Sam’s “Driving Miss Daisy”-inspired names. It saves so much time and effort we usually waste redistricting all the same usual party lines. Cinematic gerrymandering is no fun.
It may come as a bit of a surprise that I agree with a good deal of Fish’s sentiment here, though I arrive at much the same conclusions from different directions. It goes without saying that I’ll champion the likes of Lucas, Mann or Campbell just as soon as anybody else, so I won’t bother running that spike into the ground even further, except to say that in the grand scheme of things, the only thing setting any of them apart from Lang or Hitchcock is precedent– in terms of imagination and craftsmanship, they’re all equal.
There is a genuine dearth of talent rising in the new generation of filmmakers which is a bit unsettling– I love Wes Anderson’s films just as much as anybody else, but I won’t deny that they have something of a glib, superficial hipster quality after a while. The same is true of more accepted directors like Spike Jonze, Sofia Coppola or Noah Bumbauch– there’s such an insufferably insular cinematic bubble that all of the latest art-house stuff tends to live in, that air of privileged elitism that still wants to believe it’s staunchly middle-class.
To me, there’s an odd self-congratulatory aspect to the new generation of filmmakers, both in their own work and in how audiences recieve it. Fans of Nolan aren’t really there to enjoy stuff like “Inception” so much as they are to be impressed with themselves for “getting” it. True, I admire the dedication and seriousness with which people like him are taking the craft of making escapist sci-fi (something that’s sorely lacking in most of the art-house mediocrities out there), but at the same time I can’t help but feel he never outgrows the screenplay stage of his projects, always keeping his innovation to the story’s plot and mechanics and not quite the actual visualization (again– SKIS?!? Really?).
Film criticism is part of the problem, no doubt. Though I think it’s because, perhaps, that the cinema world has become so wide and far-reaching that it’s becoming nigh-impossible to wrap your arms around all of it and do it all justice. This is what most surviving critics appear to do, or at least believe they’re after, themselves, and as such they tend to be largely ignorant of their own personal prejudices. The future of film critics may yet be in specialization, where commentators concentrate on one or two specific areas based on genre or style, and choose to become experts in that field, rather than spread themselves too thin. Granted, I hardly doubt it will eliminate biases even then, but it’ll at least cut down.
As for that last point decrying younger filmgoers looking up to the likes of Lucas, Spielberg or Carpenter as masters– yes, we should encourage a larger vocabulary of cinematic greats in the past, but not necessarily at the expense of those working in the present (or in this case, the somewhat less distant past). Knowledge and appreciation of Carravagio, Raphael or Rembrandt shouldn’t stand in the way of the same thing for Van Gogh, Picasso or Warhol. Otherwise, you run the risk of going back to the bad-old days of ivory-pedestal elitism, which is only going to foster even more resentment and rebellion against the old masters than is already there in natural tendencies.
I’m reminded of a friend of mine who enjoyed going to museums in Manhattan like the Metropolitan or the New York Historical Society, always saying that you could tell the quality of a museum by whether or not they had a work by Bouguereau. And yes, the man’s work is fine, but after a while I’d rather go visit MoMA, the Guggenheim or the Whitney, instead. Educating the public on art-appreciation is one thing, but if you have to teach somebody how to like something, the cause is lost.
nice work here Bob.
I’d add just one thing… I’d also like a few more young directors that are genuine artists, AND lack film history knowledge. I know this seems to go against all conventional logic, but aren’t what we talking about is that cinema lacks artists, not film knowledge?
It seems to me that perhaps then we’d get dissections upon cinema form ad cutting as art, rather then filmmakers that try to ape what they’ve seen and understood to be ‘this is what makes great films’. You’d get original stories, perspectives, and films could grow organically with problems solved based on what the story or idea dictates rather then making the film because this is how Eisentein or Welles did it.
“I’m reminded of a friend of mine who enjoyed going to museums in Manhattan like the Metropolitan or the New York Historical Society, always saying that you could tell the quality of a museum by whether or not they had a work by Bouguereau. And yes, the man’s work is fine, but after a while I’d rather go visit MoMA, the Guggenheim or the Whitney, instead. Educating the public on art-appreciation is one thing, but if you have to teach somebody how to like something, the cause is lost.”
it’s why I chuckle when people go through museums with walking museum guides or the pre-bought museum headphones. Go by yourself, stop at what moves you in an instant, skip what doesn’t. Get up to your nose, let your eyes be your guide… instead so often the ears are filled with a prerecorded tape of facts and that guides people. It’s sickening.
Jamie, at least we can agree on the most interesting painting at the NYHS: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Lord_Cornbury.jpg
I left the first comment on this thread early in the morning and woke to find it had grown in leaps and bounds in a matter of a few short hours. Reading through Allan’s original post again and then through the comments, I personally think that this could be one of the most interesting and thought provoking thread of discussions I’ve ever seen on this site.
I’ll never lay claim to being a big brain when it comes to film criticism or the study of films (I know a bit and I know what I like, I’m always open to suggestions)… This thread really made me look at a few things in different ways and look at films and directors works I wouldn’t normally give such immediacy…
Allan should be commended for such a well written and discussion inducing piece and the rest of the participants on this thread should be commended equally for throwing their know-how out their as well…
This is great stuff and amazing food for thought!!!!!
Allan, my friend, I think you need to get LAID. It’s a shame you and Pauline Kael were born decades and oceans apart.
I don’t follow… some seeks better art in a medium they love, so they need to ‘get laid’. I don’t get it. Will meaningless sex produce better films? Or calm one down? I’d think not.
Sex is merely a legal drug, Jason, you should know that?
no, no, no, it’s ‘love that’s the drug’. At least that’s what the boys in Roxy Music told me.
No, love’s the side effect.
If this is true, I’d wonder why Huey Lewis needed to be fixed up with a new drug so badly.
Additionally, I feel fretting over the lack of “masters” or “masterpieces” or the anointing of the same, is a little premature. Film history is filled with overlooked “flops” that later became “masterpieces” and directors who were appreciated in a different way with the benefit of time. For all we know, in 25 years, a work like “Southland Tales” by Richard Kelly might have been so prescient in its horrificness, so ahead of its time in absurdity, that there might be a schoolteaching cinephile with its framed poster on his wall. I would also put Vincent Gallo’s “Brown Bunny” and Harmony Korine’s “Trash Humpers” in this category.
Oh and for those readers who have yet to experience the benefits of it, I was suggesting Allan GET LAID in order to cheer him up.
Nah, it wouldn’t, and it’d bloody depress her.
Jason how do you know about Allen’s personal life? Maybe he has a harem of woman indulging his every whim. He claims to spend very little time writing his pieces….. maybe he has to hurry and rush back to his various romantic entanglements.
But again Jason this is under the assumption that sex is an enjoyable experience, which it isn’t, of course.
Uh for many it is. I guess it depends on the person you take up the experience with. I personally enjoy it lol………
ah it takes two to tango, and if even one of the people involved would rather be elsewhere it really doesn’t matter who the other person is. Hell, even Selma Blair wouldn’t make it enjoyable… and that’s saying a lot as she’s a goddess.
The catholic priesthood is accepting applications. Celibacy required……… just kidding. I do detect some intimacy issues.
please don’t confuse being nude with another person with intimacy.
Ha this position you’ve taken Jamie really defies any sort of rational attempt at conjecture. Morrissey was wrong and lying, he was in love with Johnny MARR!!!!!! Asexuality is for the birds.
I enjoyed the original article, though I disagreed with it in it’s appreciation of Eastwood and Adam Curtis… it reminded me of Leslie Halliwell in a Blimpish frame of mind. Highly diverting.
Yes, it did feel rather like writing a sequel to Halliwell’s ‘The Decline and Fall of the Movie’. I feel more and more like Statler and Waldorf.
thinking of this essay more, I thought of one modern master that’s overlooked, and I know Allan loves him: Bela Tarr. He stands with the greats IMHO.
A master, yes, but not sure about event cinema, Jamie. But I can’t argue against it, that’s for sure.
Oh yeah, I wouldn’t call him event either. For one thing his stuff so rarely gets theater distribution.
Sorry to see so many jumping down Jason’s back. I saw first off where he was heading from, and I think he meant that Allan needs to to lighten up. It’s not all doom and gloom on the movie scene, and thinking as much won’t dim the light that’s still there for many. It’s a fascinating piece, but it paints a dire picture. I think more in line with Sam myself.
Oh, and I rather like a toss in the hay myself. So does Sue.
What a fine article.
Now I know what you make of Mann. But when he collaborates with David Milch (“Deadwood”) for HBO, you SHOULD be interested.
This might be the ‘event’ for TV. Something “Boardwalk Empire” failed to be.