by Brandie Ashe
Three years after Walt Disney produced the first full-length animated feature film, 1937’s Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, RKO released the follow-up to that mega-hit, Pinocchio. Originally intended to be Disney’s third film, its production was accelerated when the studio ran into trouble with the animation of Bambi (that film was eventually completed and released in 1942).
The story of Pinocchio is familiar even to those who have never seen the movie—a lonely wordworker, Geppetto, crafts a wooden boy and wishes upon a star that the boy could be real. His wish is granted by the benevolent Blue Fairy, but Geppetto’s naive new “son” is easily led astray by conniving tricksters, getting into all kinds of trouble that even his “conscience,” in the guise of one Jiminy Cricket, cannot prevent: he joins a marionette show run by a domineering, maniacal old puppeteer; he becomes dissolute and nearly finds himself turned into a donkey; and he is swallowed by a mean, gigantic whale. And on top of all that, Pinocchio’s nose grows to gigantic proportions whenever he tells a lie. Can the pseudo-kid ever catch a break?
Disney’s film is based on the Italian children’s book The Adventures of Pinocchio, written by Carlo Collodi and published in 1883. The original story is much darker than Disney’s take on the tale (as per usual): for starters, in Collodi’s version, Pinocchio is not so much mischievous as downright cruel. Among other things, the little bastard viciously kicks Geppetto and throws a hammer at the cricket, killing the hapless insect (who is, nonetheless, eventually brought back to life). The movie’s version of the puppet is much more innocent—his troubles come not from a mean streak, but from curiosity and a bit of stubbornness. Collodi’s Pinocchio also faces many more challenges than the Disney-fied version; in the interests of saving time and creating a more cohesive storyline, Disney’s crew greatly streamlined the narrative. In the end, a number of villains and adversaries were not included as part of the animated film—for example, Disney (perhaps wisely) decided to leave out the incident with “The Green Fisherman,” an ogre who batters Pinocchio in flour and tries to fry and eat him.
Even with the more frightening aspects of Collodi’s original story excised from the animated version, there are still enough thrills to scare the little ones. I first saw the film as a kindergartner, and I remember being particularly horrified by the image of Monstro swallowing Pinocchio. The enormous, black cavern of his jaw filled the screen, and it felt like the whale was swallowing the viewer, too—not a pleasant experience for a five-year-old. And it’s not the only moment of terror in the film: the Pleasure Island sequence, with boys being turned into donkeys right and left, is simply horrifying. In many ways, with Pinocchio, Disney (whether intentionally or not) crafted the perfect cautionary tale for youngsters, implicitly telling the young audience, “Be good, or else bad things could happen to you …”
Despite the darker themes at play, in Pinocchio (more so than in its predecessor Snow White), everything comes together as an overwhelmingly satisfying whole. The story, the music, the animation (just check out those underwater scenes—brilliant!) … each element of Pinocchio contributes to an excellent viewing experience all around. The sticky-sweet romanticism of Snow White is replaced by the love of a father for a son—still sentimental, certainly, but definitely more moving than the prior film.
But the biggest difference between Snow White and Pinocchio lies in their respective presentation. I’m not speaking merely of the animation—though the latter film’s imagery is undoubtedly crisper, clearer, more beautifully rendered, and even haunting at times. But while Snow White is a diverting fairy tale, content to merely tell a timeless love story, there is something much deeper at work in Pinocchio. This film is no mere cartoon—it is a multi-layered snapshot of what makes us “human,” and ultimately stands as one of Disney’s most effective coming-of-age stories. Throughout the film, Pinocchio wants nothing more than to become a “real” boy, but there are lessons he must learn and troubles he must endure before that can happen.
Pinocchio’s primary function is as an educational allegory, teaching children the value of making conscientious decisions and listening to the wise counsel of their elders. Using Jiminy Cricket as the stalwart outward manifestation of Pinocchio’s conscience, the film depicts the internal, universal human struggle to do what’s “right” in the face of the “easy” path. And I think this is why the audience—particularly younger viewers—can easily grasp the lessons of Pinocchio—everything is spelled out for you, not in a “geez, you’re so dumb” kind of manner, but a “wow, this cute little bug really knows what he’s talking about and maybe I should listen to him” sort of way (because, as we all know, anthropomorphic bugs are so helpful when it comes to understanding human behavior).
The allegory functions on a religious level, too; in the Monstro sequence, it’s easy to see the Biblical parallels to the story of Jonah, and the Pleasure Island sequence can, in many ways, be equated to Hell, as the boys are punished for their “sins” (i.e. wastrel-type behavior) by being transformed into beasts of burden. The Blue Fairy is a God-like figure, or perhaps the Madonna, who “births” Pinocchio immaculately. And while Pinocchio, with all his unfortunate “human” frailties, seems far from Jesus-like—like Christ, he faces a kind of metaphorical “temptation in the wilderness,” but succumbs quite easily to it in the end—the ending of the film, in which Pinocchio sacrifices himself and is then “reborn” in a “true” form, is reminiscent of Jesus’ sacrifice and subsequent resurrection. Such elements may not be evident to younger viewers (I certainly didn’t see such parallels the first dozen times I saw the movie as a kid), but are indicative of Disney’s tendency to craft films that speak not only to children, but to an audience of all ages.
The music in Pinocchio serves to both lighten the movie’s sometimes-dreary mood and convey some of the deeper emotions at work within the film. On the lighter side of the coin, we have what I believe to be the single most annoyingly catchy tune in the Disney songbook, “I Got No Strings.” Performed by Pinocchio in the marionette show, as he interacts with stringed international costars before the number dissolves into chaotic slapstick, it is somewhat charming. And then this seemingly innocuous little tune burrows itself into your head, and you find yourself singing it all day long (I bet you’re singing it to yourself right now, aren’t you? Good luck getting it out of your head today).
And on the more emotional side, this film features one of the best Disney tunes, and one of the most recognizable songs in the history of cinema, if only for its rampant use as the theme song for all Disney enterprises. Still, despite its ubiquitous presence, “When You Wish upon a Star” is just a beautiful song, no matter how you look at it. Has anyone ever penned more hopeful, optimistic lyrics? The song perfectly encapsulates the heart of the film, for if there is one singular theme to the movie, it is faith—faith in the wisdom of Fate, faith in your dreams, and faith in oneself.
Other tunes on the soundtrack include “Little Wooden Head,” sung by Geppetto, “Give a Little Whistle,” featuring both Jiminy Cricket and Pinocchio, and “Hi-Diddle-Dee-Dee (An Actor’s Life for Me)” by Foulfellow. Incidentally, the latter song was not the only one intended for the character of Foulfellow; a song called “As I Was Saying to the Duchess” was composed for the movie, but was ultimately left out, as were several other tunes. One of these, “I’m a Happy-Go-Lucky Fellow,” sung by Jiminy Cricket, eventually appeared at the start of the 1947 “package film” Fun and Fancy Free.
The score for Pinocchio was largely composed by Leigh Harline, who began his film career scoring Disney’s “Silly Symphonies” shorts throughout the 1930s. Along with Paul J. Smith, Harline composed the music score for Snow White, and teamed up with Smith once more to compose the tunes for Pinocchio. Harline crafted the music all of the songs in conjunction with noted lyricist Ned Washington. Though Pinocchio marked Harline’s last collaboration with Disney, Smith would work for the company for another two decades, going on to compose tunes and perform on the soundtracks for such films as Fantasia (1940), Bambi (1942), Cinderella (1950), and The Parent Trap (1961) as well as numerous 1940s “package films” (including the aforementioned Fancy Free) and cartoon shorts.
While we’re on the subject of music, it’s important to note the peerless voiceover work in Pinocchio, especially that of young Dickie Jones, who is nicely effective as the title character, and Cliff Edwards, who imbibes Jiminy Cricket with personality and verve—there’s a discernible twinkle reverberating in his voice. The film also features Walter Catlett, whom some (like me) remember fondly as the constable who throws Katharine Hepburn and Cary Grant in jail in Bringing Up Baby, as Foulfellow. Evelyn Venable, who provides the voice of the Blue Fairy, was the model for the Columbia Pictures logo and also starred in films such as Alice Adams (1935) with Hepburn, Death Takes a Holiday (1934) with Fredric March, and The Little Colonel (1935) with Shirley Temple. And one notable vocal performer’s role was ultimately left on the cutting-room floor: Mel Blanc, the voice of Bugs Bunny and a slew of other characters for Disney’s animation rivals over at Warner Bros., originally voiced Gideon, but the filmmakers decided that the character should not speak after all, and the only note that survived of his performance was a drunken hiccup.
When it was first released, Pinocchio was critically adored, and it would go on to win two Academy Awards, for Best Song (“When You Wish upon a Star”) and Best Score. Still, the movie did not make money on its first run at the box office. Part of the blame for that rests on circumstance—the movie premiered as World War II was in full swing, not long before the United States would find itself drawn into the conflict as well. But subsequent re-releases throughout the next several decades finally saw the film turn a profit for The Walt Disney Company. Today, the movie is recognized as one of the best in the Disney canon, and many (including myself) view it as the pinnacle of the early Disney repertoire, surpassing even Fantasia. In the past decade, the AFI has recognized Pinocchio as the second-greatest animated film of all time (behind Snow White), and “Star” was named the seventh-greatest film song. And as recently as this summer, Time’s Richard Corliss placed Pinocchio at the top of his list of the twenty-five greatest animated films of all time (though let’s not talk about some of the other “great” films on his list).
Pinocchio is a sterling example of the power of animated film, showing just how adept animation can be at examining and depicting human emotion and behavior. It is, in my estimation, a virtually flawless piece of cinematic art. I love everything about this movie: the story, the music, the gorgeous animation … and yes, perhaps most of all, I love the happy ending. Even in my cynical old(er) age, I never fail to shed a tear when Pinocchio’s (and Geppetto’s) dream comes true, and he finally becomes a real, live boy.
After all, if a piece of wood and a lonely old Italian dude can find happiness and build a true family together in this crazy world, there’s just that much more hope for the rest of us, don’t ya think?
How did ‘Pinocchio’ place in the Elite 70?
Pat Perry’s #44 choice
Allan Fish’s #52 choice
Greg Ferrara’s #72 choice








A wonderfully maintained disclosure, Brandie, of the maturity of this film, with its premium upon getting real by way of overcoming cheap initiatives. The resonance of the music does, as you say, reach corresponding heights of delicate beauty.
Brandie has penned a wholly magnificent analysis of this most celebrated of all animated features and a worldwide institution that has been accentuated by Dee Dee’s exceptional sidebar poster display.
But the discussion covered in this exceedingly well-written reviews looks at the film from all angles and covers every component, not the least of which is the film’s music, which of course in light of the countdown the film appears in, is the most vital concern.
It would be difficult to conceive of a better review for this film.
Interesting enough, two of the seven voters (Dennis Polifroni and myself) resisted voting for the film because it didn’t conform to our own definitions of what a musical film is, much like DUCK SOUP and other Marx Brothers films didn’t. However it’s a very fine line and (we) did an about face with BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, which we feels falls into the category without question. In any case, PINOCCHIO is a film masterpiece by any baraometer of measurement.
The site is really lucky to get a great review of it, and Brandie Ashe is to congratulated.
Brandie,
Probably my favorite Disney animated film and your essay presents the reasons perfectly as does you sense of humor. Great, great job!
I’m absolutely ashamed of myself here…
To explain. I was under the personal thinking that the earlier Disney classics really didn’t qualify as full blown musicals. With long stretches of dialoque in between each number, I was more in the thinking that the later films from the Mouse House qualified better under the strict definition.
As anyone who knows me will tell you all, my passion for this film is unwavering and I am one of many (including our author here, Brandie) who see this as Walt’s greatest film. Many scoff at this statement, citing SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARVES or FANTASIA as the supreme masterpiece, but those in the know are on the button when they scream out PINOCCHIO.
It’s really a perfect film, and not just the greatest animated feature of all time, it breathes and walks around in the skins of these characters. They are, all of them, for what it’s worth, as real as any live-action characters that have ever graced the screen and the details of their inner being are far more intriquing and convincing tham most of even todays movies. The real trick and the brilliance of Walt Disney was that he believed in these characters as real people and, by doing so, convinced his animators they were as well. There isn’t an inflection, movement, or word of diloque commited on the screen that wasn’t thought through a million times and the thought process has created something tangible, solid and real. Looking at it now (and I mean right now, I have the Blu Ray playing in front of me at this very second), it’s amazing by any barometer and I can only imagine the dropped jaws on the floors of the theatres back in 1940.
The fine tuning of innovations are abound in this film masterpiece: While the multiplane camera was introduced in SNOW WHITE, its used to its greatest effect here in Pinnochio. The opening shot of the camera following the stars to earth and into the small village that Geppetto lives in and moving deeper and deeper past the roof-tops and onto the cobbled roads and then to the woodcarvers shop is a single sustained camera dolly that one would think could only be achieved in live action. Well think again.
Airbrushing. The use of this finishing touch added an extra texture to the characters. Look at the way the airbrushing effect suggests every hair on Figaro’s(the cat) body, or brings to life the foam of the violent waters Monstro The Whale is Navigating. You could, literally, take any single frame of film from this movie, blow it up, and be proud to hang it up on a Museum wall. They’re that fucking beautiful.
The voice cast is simply perfect. Little Dickey Jones (he had small parts in Destry Rides Again and Mr. Smith Goes To Washington), perfectly conveys the wide eyed innocence of a child constantly wanting to know everything as Pinocchio. Disney was right to have the character always asking “Why?” and having two very young nephews of my own and watching each one of Sam’s kids grow up from infancy makes me understand the power of the performance. It’s letter perfect and you gotta wonder about the many hours the writer and animators and Walt spent in the pitch and writing rooms together ironing out every detail (If there is one detail about the making of these films that shows up in every biography of Walt Disney it’s that the movies didn’t move into production until the character and story development was letter perfect). Cliff Edwards ( a regular on Radio at the time, and the screaming voice of the soldier thats having his leg amputated in front of Vivien Leigh in GONE WITH THE WIND) adds just the right warmth of familiarity to Jimminy Cricket, but takes the character over the moon and back once he starts to sing…
Oh, and then there is the music…
Frankly, and I say this without any second guesses or retractions, this film absolutely harbors on of the two greatest songs EVER written directly for the big screen. Along with OVER THE RAINBOW from THE WIZARD OF OZ, PINOCCHIO’s WHEN YOU WISH UPON A STAR has no peers. It is a succinctly brilliant evocation of longing and dreaming and hoping for the best and when Edwards belts it out in the opening sequence of the film the whole venture takes on the resemblance of a dream. It is both haunting and timeless and it speaks directly to our souls.
No, no, no… I musta been on drugs or something when Sam asked me to cast a ballot for this poll. Maybe I was drinking with Russell and Angelo and Bobby and getting rowdy while Lucille cooked pasta…
Whatever… The facts remain that I didn’t know what the hell I was thinking when I slighted this, Disney’s BEST film and one of the 70 greatest musicals of all time…
(walking from the computer with my head down in shame…)
Brandie has captured, perfectly, evey detail and nuance that makes this film a classic of the genre and for all time…
Dennis–
How much do you REALLY like PINOCCHIO?
God what a spectacular response here! Whoa!
…and, I honestly mean it when I say that WHEN YOU WISH UPON A STAR and OVER THE RAINBOW have no peers in the genre of songs written directly for the screen. They are the two heavy-weights, they are the barometer by which all else are judged and it’s only a matter of personal taste which is the better of the two (I’ll keep my mouth shut here)…
I will never budge on this opinion and I find it hard to beleive anyone would challenge these tow for the top honor…
It’s one of the rare cases that history has bore out…
Some have come close… But…
ARGHHHHHH…. We totally fucked up by not having this on out ballots, SAM….
As for the response????
It was easy; The film and my connection with it has been in existence ever since I saw it at THE PARK LANE theatre when I was a small child and the essay by Brandie brought to the fore every detail and nuance I have connected to with this film. Brandie has written an exceptional piece and I urge you to ask this new author to not be shy and visit us again here at WITD (we rarely bite, well, we rarely bite to break the skin)…
GOD, I’m so ashamed that this one slipped me by. If I had known this really DID qualify you can bet your bottom dollar that my vote would have seen to it that it placed much higher than No. 67.
Oh, well, it is what it is…
Forgive me Uncle Walt… I was mislead by others…. or drink… or drugs…
LOL!!!!!
Dennis–
Your high drama here is admirable in one sense, but I do think you are overreacting. The choice is borderline as far as inclusion in a musical countdown, for the very reasons you described in your original comment.
Secondly the film MADE the final 70 here. Had you included the film, it may have finished ten or fifteen spots higher or so, but nothing would have drastically changed. It’s here, among the finalists and it’s received a premium treatment. Walt can rest easy.
As to your Top 5 Disneys, I’d have those first four in a close enough order, but I’d replace DUMBO (which I still like) with either SLEEPING BEAUTY, 101 DALMATIONS or BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.
1. The film would have finished much higher had I put it in my top 5 (which I probably would have if I had second thought this through)… This is my blunder and nobody elses…
2. I totally agree the film has been given premium treatment, I think Brandie’s essay here is marvelous…
3. THE TOP FIVE are the top five for DISNEY and not you and me. These were the films genuinely felt by WALT to be the best of his animated features (he loved Pinocchio and Bambi best, and was heartbroken that the public response was so lackiing on FNATASIA which he had hoped to continue up-dating year after year as an ever changing road-show), and I, personally, think he is right. Yes, the new interest in Disney animation (1987 to present) has yielded a few very good films with THE LION KING and, particularly, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, but as good as they are, they don’t fully reach the level excellence and wide-eyed wonder that WALT’S BIG FIVE brought.
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST is the only one that comes close to the original magic of Disney’s early work, and I’d dare say that even films like the afforementioned SLEEPING BEAUTY and 101 DALMATIONS, are pale in comparison. I would put BEAUTY AND THE BEAST at No. 6, a more than fair placement when you consider the company it’s keeping.
As for the animated work between the classic 5 and THE LITTLE MERMAID (which starts the next generation), I’d say they’re all about equal and each brings certain elements to the fore better than some and not as well as others. 101 DALMATIANS is a personal favorite (I love the story, some of the plot elements, it’s really funny), I find the background art and production design on SLEEPING BEAUTY to be jaw-dropping, the characterizations in PETER PAN are some of the best with Cap’n Hook a standout and the original story of and the spaghetti eating sequence in LADY AND THE TRAMP have ne believing it’s one of the ten greatest romance movies in the histoy of film…
As for Disney’s Live-Action work, well, you can talk OLD YELLER, 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, but BEDKNOBS AND BROOMSTICKS is a disaster, comedies like the SHAGGY DOG, THE LOVE BUG FILMS and THE HAPPIEST MILLIONAIRE are all throwawy fun…
SONG OF THE SOUTH is just a rumor these days and few dare to comment on its brilliance because the legalities that keep it from being seen (I’ll tell you it’s a contender for one of Walt’s best films)…
but, then, there’s MARY POPPINS, and when it comes to films live-action Disney that could give his animated classics a run for the money, well, look no further…
MARY POPPINS is tops…
PINOCCHIO is still Walt’s best film…
HANDS DOWN….
DISNEYS BIG 5 IN DENNIS’ PREFERRED ORDER:
5. DUMBO (1941)
4. SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARVES (1937)
3. BAMBI (1942)
2. FANTASIA (1940)
1. PINOCCHIO (1940)
Your top two is perfect and the only ones I ever revisit. I hope Fantasia makes the countdown as well.
I’m wondering if FANTASIA will make the count as well/
But, then again, is it really a musical????
Torment…
Dennis, I think your enthusiasm for Pinocchio practically puts me to shame! It’s gratifying to encounter others who harbor the same passion for this movie that I’ve always felt.
I wholeheartedly agree with your top 3–I think I was the only kid my age who watched Fantasia so much as a kid that I wore out the VHS tape. And Bambi is simply beautiful. It annoys me to see so many film critics and purported “experts” on film list Snow White as “THE” best Disney film–to me, such placement shows only a blind respect for the fact that Snow White was first, while not accounting for the flaws that make it less powerful than Pinocchio or Fantasia (not the least of which is perhaps the most ineffectual “heroine” in the history of animation–I’m sorry, but I really, really hate that simpering bitch).
And as an aside, I agree with your assessment of Song of the South as perhaps one of Disney’s best films. It’s a sticky subject, but it has always irritated me beyond belief that movies like Birth of a Nation are still shown in this country (TCM aired it just this past spring) while SotS is essentially banned, and for far less egregious content, too. Ignoring the movie’s existence doesn’t do anyone any favors. We can still watch Fred Astaire dance in blackface, but we can’t watch the genuinely brilliant performance of James Baskett as Uncle Remus? Give me a freaking break.
Dennis,
Both Pinocchio and Fantasia qualify on my own personal top 50. I think my personal definition for qualifying would be if there are “enough” songs to consider it in the musical canon. These qualify for me.
Damn Sam is sure putting together an army of skillful writers to complete this countdown. Another great essay about my favorite Disney film (I’ll let the musical experts decide if this actually belongs on the list). I always loved Pinocchio and was doubly fascinated by the fact that we looked exactly alike at that age (without the big nose, though I similarly lied my ass off every time I got into trouble). I’m enjoying this countdown immensely…
LOL!!!!!
You should insert a icture from back then for this thread!
Wild!!!!!!
Actually, I must disagree with Dennis. If I were voting, I would not name this film to my ballot, as it’s status as a “musical” film is questionable at best. I would not name Snow White either for the same issues. Mary Poppins and Beauty and the Beast are a completely different matter. Both of those would place.
Brandie Ashe has brought renewed life to this classic film. Nice work.
That’s the problem, though, Frank…
While MARY POPPINS and BEAUTY AND THE BEAST are undoubtedly musicals, PINOCCHIO runs a fine line. One minute I think it isn’t, one minute I thinlk it is…
Talk about confusion..
However, one thinhg I am certain of…
PINOCCHIO was, is and will always be, Disney’s crowning jewel in animated features…
That much is certain Dennis.
But your own indecision gets to the center of the issue I brought up. The film is so beloved, that it still crossed over by making this count, no matter what position it ended up in.
Brandie, a beautifully written and wonderfully detailed post on a film you clearly love. I like the way you compare how Disney altered the darker original to make his own points and the way you describe the universality of those points, which while lacking the harshness of the original were still substantial ones. As I read your description of the film, I couldn’t help thinking not only of Greek mythology (the old Pygmalion trope recast as the parental urge) and Joseph Campbell (the hero’s survival of various tests and trials to emerge as a complete “human being” takes on a whole new meaning here!), but also Sigmund Freud (with those tempters representing Pinocchio’s id and Jiminy Cricket his superego). The biblical parallels you pointed out were most interesting and the large amount of space you devoted to the music entirely appropriate to this countdown. I recall hearing “When You Wish Upon a Star” every Sunday evening as the theme song for “Disneyland” (the original title of Disney’s TV show). Your post was not only thought-provoking, but also vivid in its descriptions and touching in its personal associations with the film. A great piece of writing which sets a high bar for any subsequent animated/Disney films that might appear in the countdown.
God, what a great comment. But there is nobody who matches Mr. Finch in this department.
Since Brandie appears to be able to take the piling on she’s now receiving I’ll fourth, fifth, or eighth the point on the success of this essay. Nice job.
Haven’t seen this film since I was about 10, I liked it back then, but I now loathe Disney and its product with a passion that could warm a large city for an entire winter. I’m wondering if I should revisit it to see how much I’d like it, I know I’ll always like the story would love to see it get an adult artistic challenging approach (Breillat has been doing a few like this like BLUE BIRD and SLEEPING BEAUTY). For me I’ve always liked the Disney SWORD IN THE STONE and ROBIN HOOD.
I understand where you are coming from and sometimes agree. But “Pinocchio” seems that rarest of exceptions.
You know, JAMIE, I could understand the bashing you give the MOUSE HOUSE now, as I see, to an extent, the vile materialism the company places on everything from marketing to inserts into the films, but to condemn the entire lineage is just flat out unfair. Back when PINOCCHIO was made, Disney was an artist of the highest caliber and recognized by his peers as such. Chaplin, Fairbanks and Griffith (all titans of early cinema and nobody would challenge them, particularly Chaplin, as being an artist) all agreed that he should be included into the fold as one of the UNITED ARTISTS. His work, at least with the first BIG 5, is exemplary and holds to the highest expectations of art.
Frankly, and I have seen all of the BIG 5 recently, it’s amazing how well all of them hold up and how everything you have bashed Disney on in the past is not evident in a single frame of these classic motion pictures. You wanna bash something like ALADDIN or THE LION KING, hell, even BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, I’d say, OK, maybe he has a point. But, PINOCCHIO? This is an innocent classic and a work of art comparable to the likes of THE WIZARD OF OZ…
Just saying…
Early Walt Disney probably is an artist. He’s just not want I like at all, or want to think about. Devoid of the ideas I want to think about.
Funny you mention Griffith though because his very legacy HAS recently been put into question behind the scenes in an extensive email chain…
I basically ignore modern Disney as they are so sugary and formulaic. Same film, different locale. I would say the same about Pixar (though the beginning of UP is so tantalizingly great) and generally avoid these pitiful mainstream junk food offerings. Pinocchio and Fantasia… lets place those on a separate pedestal as they are surly works of art. Snow White, I have never really loved (though I am aware of the importance). Dumbo doesn’t seem as significant and profound now that I am a grownup… even if the pink elephant segment surly was designed for adults to lose their minds while ingesting some hallucinogens. And Bambi seemed to kiddie/girlish even when I was 9.
yeah, FANTASIA to me just screams a fan re-edit with some crazy music. Like dance/dub/hardcore… maybe some of those long Prodigy 12″s?
Ugh, let’s invite Giorgio Morodor while we’re at it. Fan-edit– what a contradiction in terms that word is.
Maurizio–
It’s a fair enough argument and it embraces taste and perceptions of this material that go further than just the inherent craftsmanship/artistry, but I’d make the strongest case for BEAUTY AND THE BEAST and a solid one for THE LION KING and THE LITTLE MERMAID. These films were recipient to the musical chemistry of Ashman and Menken, and showcases some of the most rollicking and witty animation the studio had achieved before and after. For once I was in full agreement with the spectacular reviews each received, and found re-visits always yielded musical and animation bliss.
But I fully respect your position, Jamie’s and Bob’s on this issue.
Oh right Bob I forgot you don’t like the free exchange of ideas between artist and audience.
From Here To Eternity by Giorgio Moroder is a masterpiece!!!!!
From the artist to the audience, sure. But not the other way around, at least not while misappropriating the artist’s work for your own benefit in such a nakedly destructive way. Yeah, it can be useful to do a little jokery here and there with image manipulation (Duchamp’s goatee’d Mona Lisa is fun, but really only the Dada equivalent of a lame internet meme), but the level to which Morodor or other massive re-score/re-edit campagins take it is ludicrous. Taking bits and pieces and mining them for their pop-iconography in the way that Warhol or Godard did in Histoire(s) is one thing, but Metropolis with 80′s music is just wrong. And I like 80′s music.
Yeah I agree the Moroder/Metropolis situation was a disaster. I watched that version of the film in junior high school for the first time in art class. Not a very good idea to mix those two. The clueless idiot who came up with that brainstorm is probably running Hollywood right now…
Yeah. It burns me even more that such a horrible edit is now getting a Blu Ray release from Kino (idiots). I don’t even like it when respected musicians decide to rescore a classic film’s soundtrack (seriously, does the world need Phillip Glass to play over Cocteau?). It’s one thing when you’re dealing with silent films where the original score has been lost, and you commission a new piece to play with it. But in the case of Lang’s Metropolis and Die Nibelungen, we have Gottfried Huppetz’s marvelous scores, and we don’t need anything else (not even the Nazi-pipedream of pairing it with Wagner, which is kinda antithetical to the actual films, which run almost as a repudiation of the composer’s take on Norse mythology).
@ Dennis- I agree with you about those big 5. Pinocchio has claim to touching generations of people of all ages, and like you mention, that’s something only a few films like The Wizard of Oz have claim to. I love Bambi too, but it definitely isn’t as much a musical as some of the others are.
@ Sam- I think Beauty and the Best and The Little Mermaid are the closest that animated Disney ever came to Musical royalty. They took it to another level on these films and pushed the music to the forefront.
Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs I find oddly addictive. I’ve watched it several times in the past year (after not seeing it for probably a decade or more) and keep coming back to it for reasons I can’t quite identify. I suppose, between its early status (coming before feature cartoons had been established) and its roots in gothic fairy tale – I love the spires and the dark woods and so forth. I love the combination between the medeival, generalized fable aspects and the more modern, individualized 30s comedy of the Dwarfs.
However, the greatest screen adaptation of the Grimm Brothers’ tale is the Betty Boop/Cab Calloway cartoon of 1933 – and of course I use “adaptation” very lightly…
Fantasia for many years was my favorite Disney but lately it lets me down. I don’t know, a lot of it just seems to kind of not quite hit the nail on the head. To me the gems and the sequences that might push it into greatness are the last 2 esp. the Dance of the Hours – but Night on Bald Mountain is somewhat marred by the fact that a Soviet animator (name escapes me, but Allan brought this to my attention a few years ago) did almost EXACTLY the same thing years earlier, and with a more innovative style of animation. Indeed, the sequence in the film is almost plagiarism.
Bambi is excellent – at another time I considered IT the best early Disney but now it doesn’t quite seem to me to have the magic of Pinocchio or Snow White. Maybe just a subjective thing. But the animation is superb, maybe the best Disney ever produced and the story is appropriately dark, violent, sexual, and mythic; despite the cuteness of Thumper, maybe the most adult Disney.
Dumbo is a personal sentimental favorite, but seems somewhat slight to me now – certainly in terms of animation and maybe in terms of story too. However, taken in isolation the last 20-30 minutes or so can stand with the best – a sequence stretching from the moving “Baby Mine” number through the still surreal and psychedelic pink elephants on parade (what might be my favorite sequence in any Disney movie) through the jive-talkin’ crows (total racial stereotypes, but you know what? they are far cooler and more positive stereotypes than the ones that have shown up in the supposedly PC 90s – take the Lion King’s hyenas for example – let alone what was going on in live-action films of the time).
Walt Disney is always going to be very problematic for a lot of people because he is both businessman and artist (much like Spielberg), categories most like to see as separate, but it’s a very American thing to be both.
It’s not quite Prodigy but in the mid 80s Disney actually released a VHS tape cutting old cartoon footage to then-contemporary pop (actually mostly from the late 60s or early 70s). Including footage from Fantasia sliced-and-diced. I saw it when I was probably 5 or 6, and it was quite odd and for a while I thought a hallucinated its memory, but then lo and behold when a local video store was closing down and I found it there to my astonishment.
I haven’t re-watched it yet but maybe i’ll put it up on You Tube at some point. We’ll see how long that lasts…
I like a few Disney movies here and there, but really my childhood was spent adoring sci-fi and anime, so most of Walt’s stuff wasn’t really my cup of tea. Ironically, what I always liked best from that studio was their series of shorts– classic Donald, Goofy or Chip n’ Dale is some great stuff. A lot of the television incarnations from the 80′s aren’t bad, either– Duck Tales did a great job of translating the adventurous spirit of Carl Banks’ comics to animation (not perfect, but hey), and Chip and Dale’s Rescue Rangers was a fun bit of altuisitic pulipiness that always reminded me of The Rescuers Down Under (it’s a wonder they never tried to turn that into a series, or tie CDRR into it– but you’d need Hope and Gabor to make it work). The “Disney Renaissance” period is somewhat underrated, but for my money I think the Ashman & Menken films are some of their best. Granted, they were a little heavy on the “Princess Syndrome” at that point, but whatever.
Pixar strikes me as more and more conservative in their social norms every day, and I keep hoping we’ll see another big animation house rise up in America to offer something different. DreamWorks was close for a while, but they’re too damn pop-culture laden for their own good. Lucas Animation has done some great work on The Clone Wars, but they’re still a big X factor until they finally do something other than more Star Wars. I’d say the same with DC Animation and their continued recycling of comic-book stories for all this time, but that’s what they do, and tehre’s not even the chance for something original to come from them. At the moment, the closest might be Nickelodeon, simply for their work on the Avatar series and its upcoming sequel miniseries. Yeah, most of the Nicktoons have been simple, humor-driven cartoon shows for the past 20 years, but Avatar proved they have it in them to back stuff that’s just a wee bit more mature and intelligent as well.. Invader Zim was also up there, but that show was so weird it was almost designed to be a short0lived thing.
Anime at 7 or 8 years old Bob? Where would you even watch it. I know your a few years younger, but where was that stuff available for viewing? Unless Voltron counts, I don’t remember seeing much of that on network television or even early cable. I agree Pixar is very conservative, and just not really offering anything special in their stories. The animation is superb, but narratively it resembles typical mainstream Hollywood dreck.
Thanks very much for returning Bob and contributing this stellar and personal appraisal, utilyzing your incomparable skills and peerless exposure on this subject. I must completely agree with you on what you say about the Ashman and Menken films, and remain in awe at your inspiring resilience.
What a guy!
The Sci-Fi channel showed anime every once in a while. I was 8 or 9 when I saw their broadcast of Akira for the first time, for example. There were also early-morning edits of Dragon Ball around that time, too (not to be confused with the later edits of DBZ).
Return from what Sam? I didn’t know he ever left? Might be out of some loop here…
I know animation has traveled way further than AKIRA, but that one still is special to me.
hahaha Maurizio.
Bob has the thickest armor of any person I’ve ever seen on line. That’s a rare attribute and one I salute him on. I met him in person once, and it was as delightful an evening as I can remember.
I was actually not joking lol. I guess it has to do with the chain emails a few days back. Bob loves a good fight anyway…
Absolutely, Maurizio, and he holds him own tenaciously I’d add.
I think maybe the problem with Pixar (and for the record I think they make fun, entertaining films but are somewhat overrated in terms of the level of acclaim they receive – probably because there’s so little good entertainment out there as compared to, say, the 1930s, but I digress) – the problem is not just that they’re narratively conservative (in terms of “social norms” eh, I’d say they are conventional bourgeois liberal, pretty much where the mainstream would be expected to be in a PC era) but that they’re quite self-conscious about what they’re doing. That’s a weird thing to say, all filmmaking is self-conscious but compare to the early Disneys where they were treading new ground; you can feel that freshness in every frame. That’s very vague, but I don’t know how else to put it right now.
As for Toy Story 3, I enjoyed it, but for my money a better and more original cartoon movie about inanimate objects feeling adrift as their master went off to college was made 20 years ago. Bonus points to anyone who can name it (actually I suspect a lot of people will be able to, particularly if they’re off my generation).
After watching a documentary on the Disney Renaissance lately, I’ve come the conclusion that the real auteur, to the extent there was one, behind the 80s-90s films was not a self-serving suit like Eisner or Katzenberg, but Ashman & Menken, whose scores are what really give the films their emotional resonance.
Considering Lasseter was behind both, it’s no surprise, Joel
THE BRAVE LITTLE TOASTER?
Interesting I didn’t know that (or rather, I’d forgotten as I think it was noted in that Disney doc I mentioned). I will say I think his perspective was fresher in ’87, but also that much of the film’s appeal must be traced back to Thomas Disch, who wrote the book (I wasn’t familiar with him until reading his biography, and still haven’t explored his oeuvre, but apparently he was a sci-fi author – have you read anything by him? – as well as a satirical playwright whose works were suppressed by the Catholic Church). Either way, I love the notion of investing a toaster with pathos.
Actually, in a way Pinocchio could be seen as the anti-Disney Disney, or at least the anti-what Disney would become. Think about it: the evil coachmen takes all the kids to a magical amusement park where they can do whatever they want and don’t have to grow up, and in the process turns them all into jackasses. Granted, Pleasure Island is a bit more badass than Disneyland, but you get the picture. In a way, though its focus is on corrupting boys, it reminds me of the current-day Disney Channel with its superficially squeaky-clean yet vaguely disturbing focus on young teenage girls, most of whom seem to end up really messed up in real life.
Anyway, real-world concerns aside Pinocchio gets my vote for best Disney feature (if we’re including the shorts, I would probably elevate The Gorilla Mystery, The Band Concert, and Der Fuehrer’s Face into the canon). It is just gorgeously animated, has a great story, and is genuinely disturbing – we never get any sense that there’s going to be a happy ending for those little donkeys, indeed their future seems as bleak as Balthazar’s. Oh, and yes as this is a musical countdown – great tunes.
And really engaging piece by Brandie, btw, just to further add to the compliments.
Brandie –
A really lovely post and a wonderful summation of, what I think, is a great Disney film (and I see I gave it the highest rating of the voters!) And you are so right, I’ve now got the melody of “I’ve got no strings to hold me down….” reverbating around my brain right now as I write this. Thanks a bunch! : )
Sorry, Pat! If it makes you feel any better, I’ve been hearing that blasted song for almost a solid week now …
BOB-Ok, I get what your saying to anextent, but what about the totally adult BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES from Bruce Timm and Warners. That show was a direct throw-back to the Fleischer work on SUPERMAN from the thirties but with a darker, more Sci-Fi spin to the visuals. PIXAR, call them conservative if you will, has continuously banged homers out of the park. Say what you want about the marketing and the nerchandising of these companies, but you cannot honestly say films like TOY STORY, THE INCREDIBLE and RATATOUILLE have anything other than the directors intent (namely story-telling) in mind when they’re being creative. You want adventrous spirit? The PIXAR cannot be faulted. I’m the fist person that will scream FOUL when it comes to todays animation offerings, but I have no qualms with PIXAR. And what about 21 years of THE SIMPSONS or a film called THE IRON GIANT (incidently, directed by PIXARS Brad Bird)?????? I think you’re being to harsh.
Batman: The Animated Series is magnificent! I think Mask of the Phantasm is one of the best animated films to come out of the past twenty years (and is one of the best superhero movies of all time, animated or not).
Dennis, Timm and Dini’s work on the first “Batman” series was good (I wouldn’t call it “adult” by any means, but good). All the time they spent there in series after series, however, got a little strained– “Superman” was kinda boring, “Justice League” and its permutations were well plotted, but strained. It’s all well and good, but a little overrated at times. I take the same stance with it as Lucas on “The Clone WArs”– a good program and a great work of stylish animation, but if only all that talent were pushed into something original, instead of just the same franchises over and over again. The DC stuff is now just recyling old stories from the comics for direct-to-video stuff, so I’ve given up hope with them. Lucas is still early enough in his animation efforts with Filoni and the like (Filoni a top verteran from the first season of “Avatar”) that I’d like to think he could finally (FINALLY) do something original again. Time will tell.
As for Brad Bird– I like “The Iron Giant”, but not to the extent that others to. “The Incredibles” was fine, but its nucular-family unit ending really annoys me, especially in the way the teenage girl becomes so tame at the end. “The Simpsons”– really, they haven’t been that good since the mid-to-late 90′s. So much of American animation is still bound up in humor, rather than action or drama, and that bothers me.
Thank you for the kind words, everyone. I’m pleased to have included among the amazing contributors to this countdown. And I’m thrilled with the general response to Pinocchio landing a place in the top 70. I’m aware that people have different ideas as to what constitutes a “musical.” If you go by the technical definition–that the songs included in the film do not serve merely as backdrops to the action, but have a distinct purpose in propelling the plot and elucidating the characters’ actions and motivations–then I do think Pinocchio qualifies. But there seems to be a sort of disconnect when it comes to animation–as in, if it’s an animated film, it typically can’t fall within another genre–which I think is severely limiting. I think all of us have encountered animated films, like Pinocchio, that exceed the label of mere “cartoon” and cross cinematic boundaries.
I grew up on Disney films–we had all the old “clamshell” videotapes, and I watched these movies more times than I can even estimate. I’m unabashed in my love for most things Disney. I was so happy to see last year’s release of Tangled recapture a bit of the artistry and spirit of those Walt-era Disney films. No, it was not perfect, but I feel it’s the closest we’ve come to getting “back to basics” (so to speak) in years.
The “Disney discussion” is one of my favorite topics in the subject of film. In fact, my blog co-writers and I have spent the better part of the last year dedicating Saturdays to discussions of the Disney canon, from Snow White up through the end of the so-called “Disney Renaissance” with 1999′s Tarzan. The one thing I’ve gotten from the reading and research and re-watching that has gone into writing those posts is a heightened appreciation for the brilliance of the Disney animators, then and now. Walt and his successors have always been adept at building talented, dedicated teams of artists who really brought these films to life. The legendary “Nine Old Men,” the core group of animators who were behind every film from Snow White to Peter Pan (and some of whom continued to work up through the release of The Rescuers in 1977), essentially created the techniques of modern animation from the ground up. Two of them, Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston, went on to write The Illusion of Life, which is colloquially referred to by those in the industry as “the animator’s Bible.” I dare anyone not to call these men “artists.” They were, and their work IS (as I lauded above) pure cinematic art.
BRANDIE-I would love, love, love, LOVE to get the web address for you site as the opportunity to read through those threads should be quite educational and offer newer perspectives I may be failing to come up with on my own. From the sound of it I’m probably older than you, I sold those clam shelled tapes to your parents (I ran one of the best video stores in my area) and I like to think of myself as one of the few old men out there that refuses to allow my embrace on Disney animation waver as my favorite form of film art. As Sam can attest, my own abilities as a fine artist (drawing and painting) are heavily inspired by the Disney artists and I rever guys like Ollie and Frank as titans of the form (although I hold Vladimir Tytla as a god). You ar correct as that particular book is, even by todays standards, irreplaceable….
Dennis–
I added Brandie’s site, TRUE CLASSICS to the sidebar just minutes ago.
Thanks for the side-bar inclusion!!! You RULE SCHMULLEEEEE!!!!! BRANDIE-as anyone here will be able to attest, I have defended and taken bruises for Disney more than just about anyone (I the scars and lumps to prove it). His earlier films, particularly, are some of the most emotionally moving and visually arresting in the entire canon that is American film-making at the time. Some bash Chaplin for his use of pathos, and I guess Disney, like Chaplin, could be bashed as well for the same. But, like Chaplin, Disney’s timing, eye for story and insistance on minute details is, frankly, unbound. I’d liken Disney at the start on the same level as Chaplin and Keaton, Eisenstein and DeMille. His story telling was simple, to the point and concise all the while his presentation was both delicate and immense at the same time. I totally agree with you on SNOW WHITE as well…
BRANDIE-I agree that BAMBI is unfairly maligned, particularly by the so-called intellectuals. It structure, while elegant, simply compairs the the enslaught and death of the seasons while paralleling them in metaphor to the emotional moments in the life of the main character. LoVe and Death all rear their heads the same way the weather changes and the rain falls in the film. In actuality, I can understand Disney’s attraction for Salten’s nove as animation was really the only way to bring it to visual life. The animation is, simply, sunmptuous, and the attention to precise animal movement is asdtounding. When you think that these animators didn’t have the aid of computer technology it makes you realize how amazingly talented and observing they really were. Bambi moves like a real deer. The “ice-skating” moment with Thumper can, still, reduce me to tears…
Dennis, I think one thing is that “Bambi” is so specifically a movie-memory for the baby boomers, for whom it was a big childhood memory whenever it was in theaters, and for Gen X’ers maybe, on video. Any generation past that, and you’ve got a media so saturated with children’s entertainment (of surprisingly high quality, along with the usually dismissed commercial dreck) that the emotional pull it has is slowly being supplanted by other works. “Bambi” never affected me in the same way it does for others because I already had my “Bambi”-moments in stuff like “E.T” or the “Babar” cartoon. Hell, even “Batman” affected me more, with young Bruce Wayne’s parents gunned down right in front of him in any given movie or animated work, or of course for me, something like the death of Vader from ROTJ. Oddly, the most emotionally affecting “death” moments for my childhood? Probably what Johnny Five goes through in “Short Circuit 2″– I grew up caring about aliens, cyborgs and robots more than I did deer. It’s not that the Disney film isn’t worth celebrating, or worth caring about, but simply that kids grow up with different things to be emotionally defined by.
You know what, BOB, I actually buy that response…
Brandie,
Great essay here and you do justice to one of Disney’s best films, and one that I consider a very fine musical. There are really nice memorable songs here and that’s what makes it qualify for me. I love your Biblical references and I think it gets at the immense scope and reach of the film. It touches people from age 5-95 all across the world across multiple decades, something that only a handful of other films can claim to do. I agree with you, the Monstro scene and the Pleasure Island scene are some of the most horrifying scenes from my childhood. Great stuff.
Great essay on a beautiful animated and musical film. But I think that this film is a bit manipulative in sense of what should be taught to children on films, as if they needed that kind of violent reaction on what little kids would do out of whim or out of curiosity. I’ve written a review on the manipulative, yet gorgeous ways in which the films moves, and I’ve said that when Pinocchio says he hasn’t got strings on him, the strings are on the audience.
What a THREAD. 57 comments and counting. The discourse wafting over this film and the essay written is truly inspiring. Talk about a wonderful show of support for PINOCCHIO and for Brandie. I hope we’ll see more essays penned by this wonderful writer here at WITD in the future.
A great essay, Brandie, with a lot of fascinating background material. Must admit I didn’t really consider this as a musical, despite the classic score… I would probably go along with Frank’s comment above that it isn’t a musical in the same way that ‘Beauty and the Beast’ and ‘Mary Poppins’ are. Also I never saw most of the Disney films as a child (they were not shown on TV and there were very few opportunities to go to the cinema in my rural area in the late 1960s, when I was really the right age) and, perhaps for that reason, have never been a big fan. However, your love for and knowledge of this film shine through, and should really send me back to the film – fine work.